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    I’d suggest you don’t overthink the rolling hardware. Everything apart from my bench and table saw is on wheels, with no need for fancy retract-o-wheel setups. I was going to do something “more”, as my locking casters were only a temporary fix. They have proved outstanding though. Just make that what you get will lock both the turning and rolling actions.

    I use these wheels. Good units at a great price, from a warehouse on the Gold Coast. https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F141306687745

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    I may have become a little distracted...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernmc View Post
    I may have become a little distracted...


    But where does the bleedin' car go now?

    And the existing cupboards....

    And the bench at the back....


    With the breast fed baby-poo coloured shapes, you may find some benefit in changing their transparency to 50% or summink so you can see the grid lines through it.
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    There was a German "Sheldon Cooper" type Philosopher bloke a few centuries back called Imanuel Kant.

    According to Wikipedia,
    His contributions to metaphysics, epistemology, ethics, and aesthetics have had a profound impact on almost every philosophical movement that followed him.
    But I remember him for his method of selecting a wife, meticulous, analytical, made endless lists of criteria and traits, carefully observed women and men in successful and unsuccessful marriages, compared single women he knew against the criteria etc over a period of about 20 years. In the end he never got married and had mixed feelings about this.

    Where I'm going with this is it is possible to over plan stuff especially in terms of shed layout.
    I am also reminded of another German, or Prussian. In 1880 Commander Helmuth van Moltke, said, “No plan of operations reaches with any certainty beyond the first encounter with the enemy's main force.”

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    I haven’t placed things yet - they’re just in a jumble (a bit like reality!), ready to be Tetris-ed into suitable spots

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobL View Post
    There was a German "Sheldon Cooper" type Philosopher bloke a few centuries back called Imanuel Kant.

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    But I remember him for his method of selecting a wife, meticulous, analytical, made endless lists of criteria and traits, carefully observed women and men in successful and unsuccessful marriages, compared single women he knew against the criteria etc over a period of about 20 years. In the end he never got married and had mixed feelings about this.

    Where I'm going with this is it is possible to over plan stuff especially in terms of shed layout.
    I am also reminded of another German, or Prussian. In 1880 Commander Helmuth van Moltke, said, “No plan of operations reaches with any certainty beyond the first encounter with the enemy's main force.”
    That is an outstanding post Bob, on so many levels.

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    I think those German blokes were blatantly plagiarising that better known philosopher, Mike Tyson, who said "errybody gut a plan, until they git smacked in the mouth"

    All true, but I've blundered along without even a semblance of a plan, and have ended up redoing the redo's, and a whole lot of chaos. I'm also not that good at visualising the outcome (lack of experience), so I think I'll come up with a basic outline that I'm happy with, and then expect to modify as I go.

    I like the mobile modular ideas mentioned earlier in this thread (roll away workshop, FixThisBuildThat and JackMan Works) for base units; Tim Wilmot's MFTC because it'll swallow some of my sytainers, and is expandable to deal with full ply/mdf sheets, and possibly some wall cabinets - either from Tim Wilmot's System Workshop ideas or similar.

    I need to settle on a basic design and build for the modules, and what I'm going to make them from. I'll pop into the local non-chain-DIY ply supplier today to see what the 'good' stuff looks like, and what it costs in comparison. The wheels mentioned above look good, although I'm not sure about 2 inch castors on my floor (how do you tell if the locking mechanism locks both the wheel and the swing?)

    I had a local sparky around today to stare thoughtfully at my power board and suck his teeth in dismay, so I'll have an idea of the cost of more power, more light, and a 15A circuit or two soon. Sadly, you can't even wipe your bum in this country without a permit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernmc View Post
    I like the mobile modular ideas mentioned earlier in this thread (roll away workshop, FixThisBuildThat and JackMan Works) for base units; Tim Wilmot's MFTC because it'll swallow some of my sytainers, and is expandable to deal with full ply/mdf sheets, and possibly some wall cabinets - either from Tim Wilmot's System Workshop ideas or similar.
    Don't get too hung up on what YouTube *makers* have done. It's a self referencing environment which offers limited practical reality to most. If you want to get ideas from YT, consider rather the shop tours of those who do woodworking as a focus, rather than those that are always making new workshop jigs or furniture.

    My experience was that I went through a process similar to what you're doing now a couple of years ago. My layout looks very little like what I imagined it would back then, and to be honest, I don't think there was any way I could have anticipated it either. The best thing I did was forget about organising the shed, and just start making the projects I wanted. I discovered pretty quickly how the space will work best for my needs. Oh, and it looks nothing like what any youtuber said was needed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bernmc View Post
    The wheels mentioned above look good, although I'm not sure about 2 inch castors on my floor (how do you tell if the locking mechanism locks both the wheel and the swing?)
    Check if buying in person, or ask if buying online. I mentioned it more as a "be aware that this is a thing".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernmc View Post
    I'll pop into the local non-chain-DIY ply supplier today to see what the 'good' stuff looks like, and what it costs in comparison.
    I'd be curious to hear what you come up with. For wall lining, I tend to find it worth heading down to Sydney, trailer in tow, and pick up the Okume plywood from Trademaster. Similarly, I've yet to find a better price on Birch ply than there, though I can't personally attest to the quality.

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    I built a version of the roll away system and parked the 7 modules under a mitre bench. The modules were the same height as my TS at the time and were good as temporary work surfaces and benches. One tip with this system and this may have been covered in the original plans is to make sure the access to the stuff in the modules is at the side not at the back. Eventually things got changed and the whole thing pulled apart but it lasted quite a few years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight Man View Post
    I'd be curious to hear what you come up with. For wall lining, I tend to find it worth heading down to Sydney, trailer in tow, and pick up the Okume plywood from Trademaster. Similarly, I've yet to find a better price on Birch ply than there, though I can't personally attest to the quality.
    Prices were a bit eye-watering (MPW in Lambton).
    Birch 12mm sheet - $155; 15 mm - $175; 18mm $210. They have some darker Fijian cedar ply which is around $10 a sheet cheaper, and the ‘cheap’ option is $120 for a 12mm sheet (compared to Bunnings $55 Ecoply)

    Trademaster’s birch for the same sizes is roughly $90; $110; $130

    No idea about relative quality though. Might see what Trademaster charges for delivery, and possibly pop in for a look when we’re down there in a couple of weeks.

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