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8th May 2021, 12:29 PM #1Intermediate Member
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Raised subfloor design and finishing options
Good Morning all,
My "shed" is in a oversized single garage attached to my house. The previous owner parked his work truck in there so it has a very high ceiling height of 3 meters. Over a length of about 10 meters there is a drop of about 19 inches to the garage door and it also slopes away slightly from the house side. It is a concrete floor and solid brick walls.
Whilst I have no intent to ever move from here I have to consider the possibility so any solution needs to be reversible. My plan is to build a framed subfloor with "plumbing" for electrical and dust extraction outlets. As the garage door is set back into the space I will extend the floor to the space in front and install a set of French doors for light and security when I am working but still be able to drop the roller door for security when I am not in there. For the frame material I am considering traditional timber but having built a large deck out of steel groove tube I am very tempted to go that route as the costs are about the same and ease of use of the groove tube is as simple as it comes.
On top of the frame I will put down standard Bunnings Structa-Flooring with something on top for the finish layer. But what material and this is where I welcome all feedback.
Hardwood would be my preferred option but cost and also potential for moisture changes in what is still essentially a garage are a concern. Then there is engineered flooring which I don't know much about.
I am developing problematic joints as I get older so in thinking about future Mark I don't want Tiles or the like, and I don't want to be dropping edge tools onto a hard surface. Whatever I use needs to be able to take the weight of my machinery being moved across it and vibration is also a major consideration.
So what I am after is opinions and perhaps real life examples of what worked for you. I am open to everything as long as it is within the realms of DIY.
Mark
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8th May 2021, 02:15 PM #2GOLD MEMBER
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Groove tube?
kindly explain 🤷🏼♂️
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8th May 2021, 02:50 PM #3Intermediate Member
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Groove Tube is just steel framing and fittings. Bought from a metal shop rather than a hardware like Bunnings
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8th May 2021, 03:01 PM #4
also known as box span
http://www.metalmart.com.au/wp-conte...-Tube-2016.pdfThe person who never made a mistake never made anything
Cheers
Ray
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8th May 2021, 05:02 PM #5GOLD MEMBER
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Ok, that’s lots of work. Maybe just form up at the front and put some poly waffle blocks in and pour another levelling slab on top?
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8th May 2021, 08:32 PM #6Woodworking mechanic
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9th May 2021, 05:28 PM #7
Good Morning Mark
Just checking that I am reading your post correctly; Your previous owner poured a concrete floor in the garage that follows the contour of the ground, sloping about 500 mm from highest to lowest corner? You want a firm, level floor; so will the next owner? Should the remodelling be regarded as permanent? A lot of work to remove.
A raised floor would give you good crawl space at the bottom sector but for over half of the floor area the "head height" would be less than 300mm - far too squeezy for me. Add some dusty tubing and the wiring and it becomes claustophobic... You really need access to these as you will inevitably want to change it in the future.
Way back in the 1960-70's the computer industry experimented with raised flooring in a really big way, and eventually decided that it was a dumb idea. Now quite rare. Most commercial buildings have suspended ceilings that conceal water and waste plumbing, electrical and computer wiring, heating/cooling/ventillation ducting, etc.
I have been procrastinating on redoing my shed flooring for some years. It basically comes down to two options - concrete or yellow tongue. The latter is much nicer to walk and work on, and tools bounce safer. I may level existing concrete then sheathe it with yellow tongue!
In your case yellow tongue is probably the better option. Whether you use wood or steel for the framing and joists will come down to $$$$'s and whether you are more comfortable working with wood or steel. Given that you want a vibration free floor and the possible weight of equipment, then you might look at cost and benefits of thicker flooring:
- yellow tongue - 19 mm,
- red tongue - 22 mm, or
- blue tongue - 25 mm.
Yellow tongue should be strong enough, and going thicker is really into belts and braces territory.
Finally, your local council may have rules on this.
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9th May 2021, 10:52 PM #8SENIOR MEMBER
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Id build a subfloor out of pine, treated if you think it could be damp.
A couple of anchors into the slab.
Leave some floor panels loose, or at least removable, for access.
Ive been involved with building a couple of stages, inside a converted warehouse rather than a garage, but worked well. You don't need to be able to crawl through, just throw cables /push conduit etc.
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11th May 2021, 08:22 AM #9Intermediate Member
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Thanks to all for taking the time to reply.
Concrete was my first consideration but more digging out the current slab and leveling the ground for a new one but that’s major renovation with underpinning of the house and neighbours yard.
I think the pine sub floor with blue tongue is likely the easiest path.
I will make use of the crawl space only at the highest point for cable and two in floor dust extraction points only. I figure I may as well get trip hazards out of the way once and for all. I have attached two pictures to show what I am on about. The cream is the house level and the bricks are the ground level. Over 10 metres back they meet.
I will also post here as I progress and likely need to work through the unforeseen. Still looking for a good top layer for a little extra finish and protection on top of the particle board flooring.
Mark
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