My Shed

**danny.s** · 17th May 2011, 01:33 AM

Hi Everyone

I thought I might start a thread for my new shed. I can't tell you how excited I am to get this started. I have spent the last 12 years working on the house and am finally in a position to get my shed. I grew up with a carpenter father and an awesome workshop where I learnt how to use tools and to hurt myself (terribly clumsy!!). I now have 2 boys of my own who are 12 and 13 and it's time to get myself a great place for me and them to play and learn the wonder of working with wood.

Here's the plan. A 7m x 9m colourbond shed with 2 roller doors. I built a carport a few years ago so there is no need for silly cars taking up any space. I am also building a 6 x 3 garden shed out the back so all the garden stuff and ride-on mower can go in there. I have a third and original shed way out the back where I put all my crap, so I'm thinking the new shed can stay fairly clutter free. My beautiful and understanding wife will be happy for me to get the table saw out of the rumpus room (I wish I was kidding).

My plan is to put a bench along one wall with a recess for the dropsaw. This will probably be a 3.6 by 0.9 bench. I will also have a 2.4 x 1.2 island bench with the Makita table saw built in to one end. If you are looking for a thread with beautiful solid timber 100mm thick benchtops like Groggy and Teakman you are in the wrong place. I will be using fancy stuff like pine and MDF for mine. One day when I feel I am ready and worthy I will build myself a real bench.

I have an old large gas tank which I plan to convert to a wood fire and an old PC which will become my media player and my link to this forum in the shed. Will run an ethernet cable to the shed. Nothing quite like building to the sweet sounds of Pink Floyd.

Most of the shed will be dedicated to a training area for the boys and I. We do Karate and having a big area with mats and kick bags will encourage us to train more often.

The wife is starting to get concerned that I may never again enter the house! I turned 40 recently so this is my midlife crisis - better then a convertible and a 22 year old I suppose!

Here is the before shot (hope this works)

Step 1. Town Planning Permit. In my town you need a planning permit to put the bins out so this part is essential.

Anyway I hope you check in every now and then to see my progress. I would love to get some advice along the way. No doubt I will make some stupid mistake as always but will have a great journey with this project.

Thanks for reading
Danny

**Pat** · 17th May 2011, 05:38 AM

Danny, dont worry about what your bench's are made from, as long as they are solid. I have 7 benches over 2 sheds. 1 is the traditional heavy weight, thick thumper. Made from 4x4 Tallowwood. 2 are pinus crapiarta, 2 are from whatever left over scraps. These are smaller benches for the DP, linisher etc. 2 are refugees from mates, who had to down size and the benches were under threat of being broken down for firewood.

I will mention that your proposed shed will be to small after a while . . .

**banjoping** · 17th May 2011, 03:25 PM

Depending on where you are you may have issues with the Council.

If you are zoned R15, as most residential land is these days you have a combined outbuilding limit of 60m square under the Residential Design Codes. That is, they will add up all the sheds.

There is some leniency within the Code to vary this out to a max of 10% of the block (ie 803m square block = 80m square shed) , beyond that you may have problems.

Of course ignore this if you are zoned rural, special rural etc.

**Waldo** · 17th May 2011, 03:39 PM

[QUOTE=danny.s;1318293Nothing quite like building to the sweet sounds of Pink Floyd.[/QUOTE]

And depending what you are doing e.g hand tools or electron burning fire and brimstone noise you have a great choice of said music to play.

**danny.s** · 17th May 2011, 03:49 PM

Thanks for your comments folks.

I don't anticipate council issues with the Shed size. I'm on 3700sqms which I think is semi-rural (Cockatoo, Vic) and this will go though before the smaller shed goes up. My main issue is that we are not supposed to build closer than 4m from our boundary and I want this about 2m from the fence. Neighbour is completely fine but we will see how we go. It's also outside the building envelope for the block so I'm going to call it a garden shed to see if that helps.

Danny

**BobL** · 17th May 2011, 04:43 PM

Sounds like a decent sort of a plan. Good Luck - I hope it goes well.

**Grommett** · 17th May 2011, 07:27 PM

Sounds like a great project. I am envious already of your large (shortly to be too small "wish I'd made it bigger") shed. Good luck with Council. Look forward to following the WIP.

**banjoping** · 18th May 2011, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by danny.s

Thanks for your comments folks.

I don't anticipate council issues with the Shed size. I'm on 3700sqms which I think is semi-rural (Cockatoo, Vic) and this will go though before the smaller shed goes up. My main issue is that we are not supposed to build closer than 4m from our boundary and I want this about 2m from the fence. Neighbour is completely fine but we will see how we go. It's also outside the building envelope for the block so I'm going to call it a garden shed to see if that helps.

Danny

Within the Residential Design Codes (RDC) there is delegation to allow people to be in conflict with the codes if they go through an Application called a "Codes Variation", which is basically a process through which your neighbours consent to you doing whatever is outside the codes (over height, over size, in breach of normal set backs.) Basically just the Shire covering its a- r s -e over a decision.

However, the RDC does not apply to you as you are not zoned residential. You will have to talk to the Planning Department at your shire and see what lenience they may apply to the Town Planning Scheme in regards to your set back. Set backs can be one of the areas that they are pretty strict on in non residential settings.

**danny.s** · 29th May 2011, 12:05 AM

Hi All

Sending Town Planning application in this week. Main concern for me is the fact that this is being built outside the building envelope. The building envelope takes up the back 30 meters of my 85m long block and 4 meters in from the sides. This shed will be in front of the house, outside this envelope.

I have to assume that the council will have record of this envelope and consider it a restrictive covenant. I spoke with a surprisingly helpful Town Planning officer during the week but didn't mention the envelope issue. She suggested that calling it a "Storage Shed" and getting a written OK from my neighbour would be very helpful to my case.

Anyone had similar issues with sheds outside nominated building envelopes? For what it's worth neither of my neighbours have similar setbacks. One side the house is only set back 15 meters and the other has a shed that existed before the subdivision that is at a similar setback to my proposal.

Danny.S.

**BobR** · 29th May 2011, 10:27 AM

Hi Danny, look forward to following the progress of your shed. However, it is not too late to reconsider the convertable and 22 year old.

**Boringgeoff** · 29th May 2011, 10:46 AM

HI Danny, when I first moved into my new shed 4 years ago, along with 2 steel

benches I brought with me, I made a temporary bench from a door sitting on two 44

gallon drums. I am "gunna" make a solid timber bench one of these days, in the

mean time.... hmmmm

**wun4us** · 29th May 2011, 11:12 AM

Hi Danny. Sounds good, particularly getting your boys in with you. I only managed to get one (the other joined RAN as apprentice like I did) to remain with me as an apprentice jack of all trades and master of none.

Doen't matter how big the shed is/isn't it will never be big enough. SWAMBO has already earmarked "stuff" from the house that (in her words) " aren't mine, they must be yours" so will be transported to MY shed (one mighty big garage sale coming up I think

). My (and hers) office is in the process of being packed in to boxes etc to be transported ASP to the new location.

She doesn't know it yet

but I have commandeered a part of the car garage (its a double with one side extended in length) for the ofice, otherwise the computers will get ruined

Gotta watch these women mate!

Will keep watching your progress.

BTW the link http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...type=1&theater still doen't work. Try uploading from your computer through the facility at the bottom of the page.

Cheers

**wun4us** · 29th May 2011, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by BobR

Hi Danny, look forward to following the progress of your shed. However, it is not too late to reconsider the convertable and 22 year old.

Convertible, yes

22 year old? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

**BobR** · 29th May 2011, 01:02 PM

wun4us, at times one get ambitions and capabilities mixed up

**wun4us** · 29th May 2011, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by BobR

wun4us, at times one get ambitions and capabilities mixed up

Keep the ambitions and the capabilities will come to you....no hurry LIFE'S AHEAD OF YOU MATE.

"Do not fear mistakes. You will know failure. Continue to reach out. "

Benjamin Franklin 1706-1790

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