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    Hi all,

    I posted a fair while ago about leveling a sloping garage floor for woodworking use but since then my wife has decided that a second garage is more important than woodworking so I am going to build a shed in the backyard if I can ever get a landscaper to reply to our requests to quote.

    The attached file shows what I am after. I know the standard response from many is that I should go bigger but it is a small suburban block and this is what I get. We have other storage options on the property so bikes and other crap won't come anywhere near this shed.

    My must haves are vermishield, fully insulated, and horizontal cladding so it fits into the landscape and with other structures. Power will be 15amp and lots of them. There is no windows on the back wall or western side as the back (southern) faces the back fence and is build lower than ground level due to the land cut - so no light would really come through there and I will use that wall for bench and storage space. The western wall is shaded by the neighbors brick garage/fence and I will put in a large water tank on this side to act as a heat sink for any summer sun. The front awning is as much about aesthetics as summer sun protection whilst allowing winter sun.

    Two quotes I have from the two largest advertising shed companies are $24360 (minus earthworks, vermishield, and electrical) and $42854 (seems to include everything). Both say that certifying is included. This is in Canberra so add on a bit of Canberra tax as needed.

    Both prices include slab and shed erection.

    The gap between these two quotes is large so I need to rip the quotes apart a bit more - would help if they itemised everything. I know this is a really big and difficult question but if anyone has constructed a similar sized shed that would be able to provide a comparative price I could use as a benchmark I would be highly grateful.



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    I too was limited by my small (1/8th acre) sloping block. I already had a 20m^2 shed on the block but in 2011 the town council allowed me to build a second 6 x 4m along side the other one. The addition was effectively the same size as yours without the veranda. Once the new shed was built I knocked a full size opening thru to the other shed.
    I built the old shed and was going to build the "extension" but decided to get it built because I wanted to put my limited time into outfitting the shed.

    I did all the site works, 2 sided 5 x 6.5 m x 600mm tall limestone retaining wall, barrowed in 15m^ of sand, compacted site. Lots of work
    Some details here Shed builders Recommendation Perth, pics were lost unfortunately.

    Colorbond Shed, with steel angle and strong roof trusses frame, erected cost about $12k (estimate ~double that today), including roof insulation and 100mm concrete floor. one window (other shed already had a window) and a 1.2m wide personal door. I wanted a strong shed because ai knew I was going to be hanging all manner of stuff from the trusses.

    I used a separate electrician who ran a line from the house breaker box (25 m though house and another 10m through a trench that I dug) who charged me about $1200. This included an 8 way breaker box with two 10A breakers/lines (power and lighting) and 2, 15A breakers. Other part of shed already has a 10A and 15A breaker/lines.

    Have since installed another 10A and 2 more 15A breakers lines and one 20A. It's a bit using 15A for every thing as every 15A GPO has to have its own breaker whereas you can hang almost as many 10A GPOs off a 10A line as you like. I now have 20 (yep 20), 10A double GPOs attached to 3 x 10A circuits/breakers across the combo shed. I also got the sparky to (reluctantly) instal GPOs at the position that lights were to be located in the celling so I could obtain and plug my own lights into. I have 22 1200mm LED fluoros across the 2 sheds plus a half dozen LED spotlights.

    I did my own wall insulation and lining, Rockwool clad by Mini-orb in the metalwork end, and bubble insulation and by-rock in the rest - including the old shed.
    Added plumbing for a sink, and mains gas for a furnace! (now disconnected)
    Built external sound reducing enclosures for my compressor and dust extractor.
    Compressed air is reticulated throughput the shed to 7 distribution points.
    Shed has 2 x high capacity ventilation fans, including a vented welding/spray painting booth.
    A lot of effort went into the dust extraction system.

    Full WIP thread here BobL's shed fit.
    Most of the pics were lost in the great 2012 picture loss but I have put most of them back.

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    That seems about right. The Earthworks is probably the biggest determining factor, as thats unique to your property.

    I've got a quote a while back in Perth that i didn't proceed with as i was half expecting it to be alot less (traps for new players). My property is flat so no need for additional earth works, 5 x 6m x 3.2m tall shed, slab and separate electrical board to the shed (2 x15amp circuits and a bunch of 10 amp circuits). Quote came in just over $30k. Biggest cost was the slab, followed by shed structure then electrical.

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    I built a whole house frame out of recycled timber, doesn't anyone do this anymore? Clad it, add guttering etc and job done. Today if I had to build a shed it would not be metal but that's just me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Parks View Post
    I built a whole house frame out of recycled timber, doesn't anyone do this anymore? Clad it, add guttering etc and job done. Today if I had to build a shed it would not be metal but that's just me.
    Watch this space

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    Hi Chris, the thought of building myself from timber especially is a great daydream and I envy anyone that can do it. I certainly have the skill, tools, access to a huge array of plans on the internet, and the mindset to do so but what I don't have is time - I work full time, want the shed and landscaping completed quickly (two years from first retirement decision) need to fit in weekends full of kids sport and need to pay attention to the wife.
    I took a couple of years to build my boat, squeezing in one or two planks a night after work but in the process alienated my family and it just isn’t worth it.
    I also have a defence force lower back and knees so I am conscious of taking care of my body leading up to retirement.

    Nowadays, I see the value in paying somebody to get it up quickly and professionally but that doesn’t mean I won’t confirm I am getting a good deal. Which is why I come here to see what others think and have a good discussion on the benefits or otherwise of additions and inclusions in the hope my experience and questions will benefit somebody else who doesn’t know how to ask the same questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Parks View Post
    I built a whole house frame out of recycled timber, doesn't anyone do this anymore? Clad it, add guttering etc and job done. Today if I had to build a shed it would not be metal but that's just me.

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    I do understand the time thing. The house frame was actually built in Sydney then knocked down and each weekend we put some of it on the roof of the car and drove three hours on Friday night and worked over the weekend to erect what we could. It took me a year to dig the hole to put my workshop in and a few more years to erect the thing but it is a two story building and I don't regret a minute of it. Personally I hate tin sheds as they have too many problems but I get the point that it is the least painful way of getting a workshop.

    Has anyone here compared costs of a tin shed against getting timber frames and trusses built and then cladding the frames and roof? getting the frames built would cut down the time hugely and it would be a straight forward job for the average workshop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Parks View Post

    Has anyone here compared costs of a tin shed against getting timber frames and trusses built and then cladding the frames and roof? getting the frames built would cut down the time hugely and it would be a straight forward job for the average workshop.
    Great question!

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    Only thought I'd throw in at this point is that if you're going to get a quote *now* for timber framing materials, trusses and the like, be aware you're not dealing with "normal" prices.

    I'm sure steel and colourbond have gone up too, but from what I hear, not as much as timber products.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mwethers View Post
    Hi all,

    I posted a fair while ago about leveling a sloping garage floor for woodworking use but since then my wife has decided that a second garage is more important than woodworking so I am going to build a shed in the backyard if I can ever get a landscaper to reply to our requests to quote.

    The attached file shows what I am after. I know the standard response from many is that I should go bigger but it is a small suburban block and this is what I get. We have other storage options on the property so bikes and other crap won't come anywhere near this shed.

    My must haves are vermishield, fully insulated, and horizontal cladding so it fits into the landscape and with other structures. Power will be 15amp and lots of them. There is no windows on the back wall or western side as the back (southern) faces the back fence and is build lower than ground level due to the land cut - so no light would really come through there and I will use that wall for bench and storage space. The western wall is shaded by the neighbors brick garage/fence and I will put in a large water tank on this side to act as a heat sink for any summer sun. The front awning is as much about aesthetics as summer sun protection whilst allowing winter sun.

    Two quotes I have from the two largest advertising shed companies are $24360 (minus earthworks, vermishield, and electrical) and $42854 (seems to include everything). Both say that certifying is included. This is in Canberra so add on a bit of Canberra tax as needed.

    Both prices include slab and shed erection.

    The gap between these two quotes is large so I need to rip the quotes apart a bit more - would help if they itemised everything. I know this is a really big and difficult question but if anyone has constructed a similar sized shed that would be able to provide a comparative price I could use as a benchmark I would be highly grateful.



    Mark
    those 2 quotes you have seem to be a bit exxy

    I have recently had a 6x5m colourbond shed with 6x3 awning with similar inclusions you have drawn up including insulation and roof vent

    it is a lot like you have drawn up only a bit larger

    to remove an old slab, excavate, pour a new slab, erect a new shed, it was 14,500, to have it wired up from the main curcuit board including 15a, and its own switch board and fit a 3000 litre tank and pump/fittings it was a further $2,500

    Ranbuild Sheds did everything I have mentioned regarding the shed and I got a local sparky for the wiring , the tank and pump I did myself
    I do recall getting another Quote from a local shed company which was over $23,000 + $2,500 for extras, so it was a no brainer

    it could be worth trying Ranbuild sheds if there's a branch near you, I thought they did a good job on mine and I couldn't be happier
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight Man View Post
    Only thought I'd throw in at this point is that if you're going to get a quote *now* for timber framing materials, trusses and the like, be aware you're not dealing with "normal" prices.

    I'm sure steel and colourbond have gone up too, but from what I hear, not as much as timber products.
    I would pay more for a timber frame and no steel cladding apart from the roof but that is only my preference due to the problems tin sheds have.
    CHRIS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Parks View Post
    I would pay more for a timber frame and no steel cladding apart from the roof but that is only my preference due to the problems tin sheds have.
    just curious, what would you say the disadvantages are with steel/colourbond over timber frame and cladding?

    aesthetically I think the latter is more appealing, but the other has advantages including erection costs

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