Thread: The shed gets a lining

Hi
Bit of a update
As mention earlier I had a pile in the middle of the shed.
I had to reduce this to give me room to do the other side of shed.
One sheet I got was a 18mm MDF so I used this and anything else suitable eg the old shelf hanging from the roof (first photo in last post) to make some boxes for sorting out my metal collection.
Also moved another set of shelves next to other one (see photo) This is where current project will be put. PS notice the stuff outside the door where did that come from honest it was not me.
Christos is picking up the lathe in the next few days and I hope he has a lot of fun with it.
Now the trailer is 3/4 full and I still need to put about the same amount in to it. Then this should see me starting the next side.
A note of warning when I find the bugger who put all this junk in my shed they are going to get a


Russell

Hi
I got back the pricing on 3 types of insulation for shed roof.
There all came in within $20 of $560 so price is not a decider here.
Installation and or best product will be the decider
Installation is on to the back of the roof rafters. All this has to be done off a ladder while working around benches and machinery on the floor.
Will put a horizontal piece near top of roof to create a chanel to collect hot air from the air gap above insulation and roof metal and let it out ridge vents (still to be got)
1; Polystyrene foil backed foam 50mm
has a 1,5 R rating on the material itself, add a air gap of 90mm makes it about R 4.5+
install; Have to handle large sheets in a confined space, have too cut out ceiling joist slots to get foam down to wall or cut infill pieces to go between joists
2; Foil board 15mm
The R rating is for the material is not stated anywhere it is always was mixed in with something else, sarking, air gap, summer, winter. Lets say in summer R4 with plenty of air flow between the roof and foil board and in Winter something less.
install; Much the same as polystyrene
3 Air cell double foil 5mm
Has a rating of R0.2 many relies on a air gap which states a rating of R3 or 4
install; 2 width fit perfectly to each side of roof. the question will this be easer being a flexible martial on a roll then a ridged board?

Any thoughts anyone..............


Russell

Hi Rusel, the Poly would give much better sound reduction than the others, I would think. Not sure if that's an issue for you.

G'Day Russell,
Have you thought of stripping the roof and rolling out the foil backed batt the refixing the roofing.
It may sound like a lot of work but I think it'd be easier and safer than working off a ladder in the shed trying to fix an insulated ceiling.
May also be cheaper for the building roll foil backed batt?
Cheers, Crowie

Originally Posted by crowie

G'Day Russell,
Have you thought of stripping the roof and rolling out the foil backed batt the refixing the roofing.
It may sound like a lot of work but I think it'd be easier and safer than working off a ladder in the shed trying to fix an insulated ceiling.
May also be cheaper for the building roll foil backed batt?
Cheers, Crowie

I'm so glad I had insulation installed in the roof as part of the new shed build
BUT
I have the 3.2 x 5.3 adjacent shed roof to insulate and I'm just gonna take the roof off to do it. It's a skillion so it makes it easier to deal with, plus I have to lift one side of the old shed roof line 125 mm at one corner anyway to make it level again.

Hi
BobL What insulation did you have put in? Might help me make a decision.
FenceFurniture. at the moment sound not a big problem but thanks for the thought.

To give you a idea of the shed I have attached a photo of the shed from the back door of the house. For orientation the door of shed faces west.
The roof material is aluminium held down with aluminium screws. I do not want to disturbed it. If it was steel it would be off in a minute.
I like the idea of the large air gap by putting the insulation on back of rafts because it greatly increase the R value.
I was thinking if I put a beam down the centre under the ceiling beams and couple of temporary columns holding up the beams. I could then stand on the ceiling beams, maybe use a plank to sit on while screwing the insulation up, not that much room to stand.

If you look to the right of the door you can see a piece of 8x2 wood there and under it are some mobile pot stands attached to it. This is what I am using to move the lining boards from the trailer to position, to heavy for me to carry these days

Having seen the shed I agree that there isn't much room to stand. I would think that this is more then a one person job if you tackle this from the inside unless you start cutting the sheets to something more suited for one person. I guess I am also looking at what comes out of this.

Diffidently expecting an interesting solution.

Originally Posted by rusel

Hi
BobL What insulation did you have put in? Might help me make a decision.

I used Anticon - just the basic 55 - it makes a huge difference. On a hot day I stand in the old shed and look up and the roof is radiating like a toaster, then I move to the new one and the heat radiating of the underneath roof virtually disappears. The other BIG difference is old roof is bare galv while new shed is white colour bond. Even without insulation this alone make a major difference.

I've started lining my shed today - I'll post something here when I get the photos off the camera later this evening.

Hi
Got back into again and this time the eastern wall was the target.
As you can see in pic 783 the bottom half of the wall is Green,This was sheeting I got from Chris that is waterproof so this goes behind the mill and lathe and right to end of the shed. Above this is melamine to the end of the lathe then painted chipboard to end.
I had some strips of Green that I took down and used them to seal up the mill and stop it spraying coolant all over,work well.
What i have done since photo is string up the lights above the machinery

Made up a sign for the misses the Gardner pic802



She loved it

Still looking at the roof and just thinking.

Russell

That's again very good progress.

Have been back out in the shed and sorting things out some more by moving all the large timbers out of the shed and the ones that have been out in the open into a lean to between the shed and fence.
The roof is from some colourbond fencing panels cut in half and all the shelving is from left overs like old pine bed ends, trims and short bits of leftovers
Now where the timber was stack on it's end in the corner the welder now lives and the boss like that there is no timber stacked in the back yard.. Win win

I still have access from the other end for some bigger item that do not mind the whether... so all's good

Russell

Yes a win win. only do not forget what is in the storage.

I like it Russel!

I have a couple of gaps like that around the back of the shed but I need to keep the access.

My only problem is it already near full....must mean I need to make something out of it not acquire more ..... but what is the question???