Thread: WA Woodworking Show - get together?

OK, time for a quick review.

Got there about 9.45am, with the milling etc outside finalizing thier setup. Plenty of big slabs though.

Once inside I went and had a look around at the exhibition pieces, old tools, boating area. Some wonderful furniture produced by year 11 and 12 students.

Then moved on to the main area, where I spent most of the rest of the day until I left at about 2pm.

Meet up with Pops and his pal, had a coffee (bloody average) and went to view the Timbecon demo on kitchern cabinet door making. Got a tad P'ed off when the young lad told all it was going to be on cabinet construction, with nothing to do with doors. I think Pops was more miffed than me though, as he plans to build his kitchen. Pretty unorganised demo too. Don't bother if you ask me.

All the major players where there, with the exception of his highness Ubeaut. Not as much timber for sale as I would have liked but I still managed to pick up some nice stuff. Can't say the bargin where outstanding, as I wasn't after any large machinery, so didn't check prices.

Overall, well worth the $12 entry.

So what did I buy? 3 pieces of timber, consisting of a slab of casuarina about 1200 x 400 x 30 - $20, a piece of 2 tone jarrah 400 x 120 x 40 with heavy bark on one edge - $1, and the best piece, a short length of black heart sasafrass (close?) 600 x 150 x 50 - $20.

Very happy with the BHS, beautiful colours.

The main puchase (start drooling RB) was a Gifkin jig with the A10 template. I have been contemplating one for 3 years and am very happy I finally got one. Very good show offer, with the first Box making book and video thrown in, all for $289.

I plan to slice the BHS into 2 or 3 widths to make a box, once I get the hang of the Gifkin jig.

Was great to meet ya Pops, best of luck with your kitchen. I hope all enjoy the show as much as I did.

OOHROO

Got there at 10:00 ... left at 5:00. Credit Card is now in a bad way!

Layout of vendors is very similar to last year, but much more happening in the way of demos. Tom O'Donnell at the Makita stand doing some clever stuff with template guides. Roger Gifkin is still doing clever stuff with his jig and gave a great demo at 3:30 - complete loose lidded box in just under an hour.

Timbecon had a number of demos running throughout the day. Terry Gosschalk was showing his WASP - so convincing that I purchased one, and then the drill press to run it on, then the "easy rider" accessory which replaces the rack and pinion table winder with a simple counter weight, and then the stand attachment, vices and sander attachments. [WASP $89, Easy Rider $69, Drill Press $299] Isn't it amazing that what starts out as a very reasonable, logical purchase costing less than $90 can quickly become more than $500. The next thing will be saving up for the 610 x 100 belts which it consumes. (These are changed in seconds ... amazing stuff!) Terry mentioned that people are actually using much longer belts too - by taking one of the rollers off the drill press column and attaching it to, say a shed upright! So Abrasive suppliers in Perth - lookout!

Demo of hand-cut dovetails was also good to watch. It followed the Kitchen cabinet demo which utilised a bed side table cabinet .. sort of. (Refer above post.)

I saw Les Meyer and a number of the Southern Districts Triton Club members. Also saw Joe (Gatiep) turning pens at the CarbatecWA stand on his Vicmark lathe.

The advertised demonstrations have been moved to the other end of the show this year. Historic Tools in same place as last year, as are Fremantle woodworkers, School of fine woodworking, Women working wood are in the same place as last year too - on your right as you enter the Pavilion. A local supplier of veneers (Kerrie Bear) has some excellent veneer sample packs ~ $30. She is located near the Fremantle woodworking group.

On the left as you enter - nearly all the vendors in same places as last year. CarbatecWA looking after Triton. MIK hosting some great Dark Side demos. McJing are there too. Also purchased a wind-up torch that never needs batteries, and can also charge a mobile phone ($30). Now I'll be able to find the shed when the sun goes down.

Take your raincoat! Mid afternoon, strong gusts of wind blew in some windows - allowing outside (rain) to come into the building. This was quickly fixed, but hail is forecast for tomorrow.

If you dont have a program, it's available here. Hard copies are available from the information stand which is opposite the entrance as you walk in. (Past the moooorish nuts stand!)

I feel the need for that bandsaw and 2HP dusty ... so I may make it back there for the get together at 12.

If I don't see you, have a really great day tomorrow anyway.

Now off to dream about another day at the wood show.

Chris

Gazza,

I'm drooling over the timber, already got a Gifkins jig

It's 7.30 am and Im sitting here wasting time till the show opens!!!.

I feel like a little kid about to head off the show

RB

Well, I hope the weather is better tomorrow (Sunday). I am heading up to Perth in the morning for the show and by the looks of this thread I will be the only one there. Whoopie, the vendors will all be falling over themselves to give me a bargain so they don't have to pack it all up to return to their store.

(Well, I can dream can't I?)

Regards

Neil.

Well I wandered up yesty with trusty overly abused credit card in hand along with bank card for those galahs that only take cash (ala Wesfolds and their mills sadly the bank card didnt have enough in it so they missed out... whew ) So had a good gander at that overhead router thingy to the left of the entrance... mmm bit big for me non existant soon to be built ubeaut shed... onward through the que and into the main house!

shows and demos all over the place spruikers sellin their things with "passion" got stuck yarnin with Mark from PTMS over their jet gear... wandered to the back to have a gander at the timber and the slab leveler machine mmmm like the othery outside too big for me NESTBB shed so onward!!

Checked out and bought a couple of them whacketty dak steel clamps... then ohh ***** not timbrecon... Im almost runnin past to ignore them... suddenly "Shane mate hows it goin?" I look around and theres that smilin git Simon from timbrecon so we have a yarn and he wanders me around since the blighter knows what tools I need... and there she is a lovely spindle sander just perfect for my NESTBB so yeah okay I'll have one of them but thats it!... mmmm oh an that drum sander is how much? ooohhh mmmmm oh okay one of them too... and theres that 6x9 belt disc sander Ive been hungerin for... mmmm oooh alright then just one but thats it!!... so were wanderin back to the chickybabe on the register and theres this sexy bench drill press just winkin at me I tried hard to ignore her I did!!... but then ooh why the blazes not?!! so add that then I saw the sliding bed for the new 10in saw mmmm can see some wicked uses for one of them things by gar... and THEN I said "Flamin tally up sonshine Im outta here!" so he did

But you know what? I couldnt take home ANYTHING!! nope not one bloody item did I take home with me... instead I got directed to go to the store and pick them up as "no worries mate they definantly have them at the store" mmmm why did that comment worry me? (something to do with the 3 month wait for the bloody saw maybe?) Anyways I like young Simon so I have to go see me daughter in Morley so away I go... oh I had a wander around a bit more and spent a bit more on a nice set of palm carving chizels and then I left pickin up the chainsaw attachment from Wesfords as I ran... I would have bought the damned mill if they had have allowed credit cards! never mind their loss

So I head off deciding to go direct to Timbrecons shop to pick up me goodies...

oh well... of the 6 items I bought I got 4 sigh... the poor little fella that did the huntin through the store area was so bloody apologetic I thought hed invite me back for tea!! he couldnt believe they didnt have these things... well he did find the boxed lengths of rail for the sliding table attachment but nothing else and couldnt find the spindle sander anywhere... so you guessed it... I wait again

But while I was there... I managed to pick up a few added things I simply MUST have damn! well really I didnt really NEEd that scroll saw but she was sexy sittin there and Ive always wanted to have a go at that...

strewth I hate that shop!! Flamin place gets me every time!! Just once Id like to be able to walk in there pick up me total order and walk out... without bein winked at smiled at cooo'd at by all those damned tools and accessories!!! :mad:

So I did a bit more damage to the credit card thanks to the great salesmanship of young Simon (bloody young *((^(*^%&%& ) and again I wait... but the little bloke at the shop did reckon they had them at the warehouse in Belmont... but no he didnt have the key and no he wouldnt be able to get them and its okay Shane no we wont make you wait 3 months again mate Im sure of that mate seriously... sigh we shall see eh!

But all in all better than the last time I went a couple of years ago

Only negative I found personally was that Wesfords didnt take credit cards geeez Id have bought their mill in a flash if he had

oh and no I didnt get to meet anyone... since I was outta there by 11.45! the credit card had taken a beltin and it was time to go before I seriously decimated the thing and was made to sleep in the doghouse for the next 10 years instead of just the next 2 :eek: ... maybe next year

I went there on Saturday morning. Was interested in a chisel mortiser. Ended up with the Carbatec SL-1600T, it seemed to be one of the more roubust, feature packed units ($495). Bit disapointed that non of them came complete with a set of chisels, all extras. Got the Wasp and Easy Rider as well.

The most expensive things I bought was a pie and coffee... $7.

Peters Ice Creams were have a sale (80% off) at the show grounds as well, so on the wayout I called in and got a few cartons of ice creams, chicken nuggets, wedge chips, tiny spring rolls, all the heathy stuff.

Well, I got in on Saturday about 9.30 am or so had a good look at everything. Nearly got talked into buying a HNT Gordon Trying plane and a packaged sharpening kit ( 3 Japanese waterstones, stone pond, veritas honing jig, green compound) for $340. Decided it seemed a bit much and decided to wait for some expert advice.

Checked out the TSC-10-hb. Carbatec had exactly the same price as the shop price. Timbecon had $150 off. Problem is, I prefer the look of the Carbatec one and Im interested in the router wing!.

12.00 pm came around in no time so I wandered over to the meeting area. No one had a cap or identification. Recognised Derek from the previous pictures and introduced myself. We soon had a group 6 and we went off to grab some lunch. Had a nice chat with everyone, then went wandering around the show with Derek and Peter.
It's more interesting to wander around with a couple of experts, interesting to listen to what they have to say.

Thanks to Derek for his advice on the plane and water stones. Ended up losing the guys somewhere along the way when I was distracted by some nice timber!.

Derek nabbed a nice piece of Jarrah, that would have been perfect for a job I have coming up. If only I had seen it earlier!

Couldnt make up my mind on what to buy, so did the lazy thing and didnt get anything (well one, thing, I bought the WASP sander).

Went home feeling a bit frustrated about the internal fighting "should I buy it, shouldnt I" etc. (left about 3.30...)

Slept on it, then decided to return. I had decided I needed a shooting board, so I had to have a decent plane. Took the wife this time, cos I also had some ideas for some timber I saw.

Ended up buying a Veritas Low Angle Smoothing Plane, two lengths of She-Oak about 2 metres long by 200 mm wide.

Asked a Carbatec guy whether the tsc-10-hb would have a show price, he said no, its a good deal as it is. Informed that if you don't want the router wing, they will replace it with the standard wing, but it will cost the same. All in all a bit disappointed with that. Have decided to now see if I have any cash left over after our ski-ing holiday (in 2 weeks). If so, then I may get it when we return. otehrwise I will just have to make do with the Triton and start making some more jigs etc and try and square stuff up the neanderthal way

All in all, an interesting show and was good to meet some fellow board members, but wasn't particularly impressed with the prices...

RB

Mate why didnt you just say "you wont do a deal for this machine at a woodshow? then stuff you" and wander over to Timbecon grab theirs (yeah yeah so you have to flamin wait for months for one to turn up but hey! youd have one ) call into Bunnys on the way home grab a can of blue spray paint take her outta the box and spray her blue?... Same machine mate just a different color is all.

As for the router insert Simon {young fella from Timbecon) reckoned that it was available with theirs just like the sliding table attachment that not long ago only Carbatec had which Timbecon now stocks and which I couldnt resist and now have to wait for

I now officially have a 80% orange tool range!! Flamin Timbecon why I do it to myself I will never understand... I hate orange not terribly mucho eh? sorta like goin "ooooh argh argh argh" while flippin ones wrist aint it rather than the manly "Flamin eck aarrgh arrgh arrgh tuff as ducks knuts this stuff eh!"

I ventured along on Sunday with SHMBO and Miss 4, spent a lot of time drooling and mentally making a list before sticking my head into the table making demo. Managed to limit purchases to a new biscuit joiner and cordless screwdriver . Also didn't see any caps, but not to worry. Admired some great work as usual in the display area - Miss 4 was adamant the rocking horse was her friend and wanted to come home with her .

Then walked past one timber stall, looked down at Miss 4 and noticed something great - over her shoulder there was a great jarrah leg pack hidden under a trestle !!. Added that to the tally (and thanks to Bill from the woodcarving guild who helped carry some of the load back towards the car).

Next year though, that will be an expensive year..... :eek:

Went Friday/Saturday ...Friday to check out the Stanley No 1 No 2 Stanley's bench planes for sale at the Tool Preservation Society.
Fairly pricey expensive as is to be expected but I knew it would be so having checked out availability on the web ...it's an aspiration that I would like to work towards down the track to complete a bench plane collection but not one to get hung up about.Bloke told me about a recent and very rare No 2 corrugated sole bench Stanley recently acquired by somebody ...heck rare as hens teeth..something to be treasured for sure.

Saturday to view some of the ongoing seminars and to further the deal made on a router from All Tools,who I have not dealt with before but came away happy with a fixed "D" handle Makita (another one SWMBO cries out) but for $55 off the top it coudn't be given a miss ..I have a set task for it.However I was magnanamous in shouting her a $5 stamp loupe from McJing's stand...assuaged somewhat...then onwards to MIK's stand and a further relieving of some $$$$ on 12mm HNT & a 19mm HNT shoulder planes that I have been eying off for some time.

Checked in with Tom O'Donnell said Hi,shook hands, good to catch up with him ...loking well and in fine voice and it would be a shame if he's not there in future shows but he's getting on now ...and Tom, I HOPE YOU MADE A REAL QUID THERE, for you have offered up your knowledge and are deserving of all the merits it offers.

Spent some time viewing the lot's of timber available but none could offer any English Oak (quercus Robur) I think is it's latin nom de plume.However some nice pieces there and a bargain could be there for the perceptive viewer with the knowledge of prices/availability.

A distinctive lack of Eastern States contributers from previous shows here...could be sign of the times with fuel costs rising,display costs,the isolation could be more manifest in time.

I thought the woodwork exhibits were of a high standard and displayed a cross section of timbers across the medium that is particular here in the West.
The triangular (& slightly rounded) tables were of a high standard and an unusual but practical design that I found most pleasing to the eye for me.So Much so that I now will view the prospect of building one myself ...practical and functional for at least six people to eye contact in a setting ..a rarity these days.

With the lack of U_Beaut caps perhaps the organisers will permit a sign inside and at the entrance saying " All U-Beaut members meet here at...time?" COS not ever body has the cap!!

BUT not for the lack of trying!

ALL in all not disappointed...but perhaps more depth!

Cheers John

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Hope this works if not, your not missing much, as I am not in the photo....gentlemen remember next year....lady's should get a chance to be in photo too!

Still we all had a great day...yep lots of goodies to play with now!

Saturday to view some of the ongoing seminars and to further the deal made on a router from All Tools,who I have not dealt with before but came away happy with a fixed "D" handle Makita (another one SWMBO cries out) but for $55 off the top it coudn't be given a miss ..I have a set task for it.However I was magnanamous in shouting her a $5 stamp loupe from McJing's stand...assuaged somewhat...then onwards to MIK's stand and a further relieving of some $$$$ on 12mm HNT & a 19mm HNT shoulder planes that I have been eying off for some time.

Checked in with Tom O'Donnell said Hi,shook hands, good to catch up with him ...loking well and in fine voice and it would be a shame if he's not there in future shows but he's getting on now ...and Tom, I HOPE YOU MADE A REAL QUID THERE, for you have offered up your knowledge and are deserving of all the merits it offers.


Cheers John

Thanks for your encouraging comments regretfully this may have been my last show (I've said that before of course) It is all the prepararion required that makes it very difficult and tiring. I was only there for the two days Friday and Saturday then I was off to Cairns for a fornight's holiday.

Now back in Perth. As you know John at each show I always try to produce a model with new routing techniques and this year was no exception. (Table with Mitred rails) The mitre also contained the Tenon to fit into the mortice.

Also the legs were produced using the template guides to transform the 450 x 90 x 19mm material into shape including inserting the Mortice.

I am still concerned that most router users are still not using template guides to complete their projects. I consider it a much safer method of using the router for certain projects.

I've come back home from Cairns and needless to say on my visit I saw a simple little box and it started me thinking 'Could that be done with a Plunge Router and could my clients at the Association for the blind produce the same box. Well I am working on it and I will keep all informed as I progress to make the final project. All with the router in the plunge mode or maybe I will design a new Jig for it.

Regards Tom