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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony_ View Post
    hello guys I jst started yr 12 this yr and i was wandering what I am going to make. i want to ask you guys do you have to buy high quality wood, or can you jst use cheap wood (radiata pine?) instead? would the quality of the wood affect the marking?
    ALSO i was thinking of making a jewlery box since its small and cheap to make, BUT does require some skills right? i asked my teacher and he goes dont make that:S im so stuck on what to make can u guys give me ideas please thanks alot
    Your drawing may have been a little basic for the teacher to say not to make it. Remember that there's no difference between a pool table and a coffee table except for the cost and the top surface. Both are fairly basic to make.

    It's possible to make a high quality project for under $200.

    You need to show exemplary skill, exemplary attitude and exemplary quality of finish to achieve a band 6. Remember that your project needs to show a wide *range* of skills.

    A small, upper-end jewellery box would do this. Look at Art Nouveau OR Art Deco for inspiration. Needs to be really well finished, well designed and well executed. Hepplewhite shows similar options in his Cabinetmakers Guide, or Sheraton in their Cabinetmakers' Directory, albeit a bit bigger than a jewellery box.

    Your school library and IA department would have heaps of inspirational books for making small cabinets/jewellery boxes.

    Perhaps you should look at making a jewellery *cabinet*, high quality and finished appropriately, as opposed to a simple box, a'la this executed at a higher level of difficulty/more demanding requirements

    Look here to find the marking guidelines for the major project - understand them well *before* you start to design and make your project.

    http://www.boardofstudies.nsw.edu.au..._markguide.pdf

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    Tony,
    For under your $200, I can provide Austrlian red cedar, coachwood, northern silky oak perhaps some rosewood, all NSW timbers, sufficient quantity to make whatever you want... well apart from 4 metre long dining able perhaps....... I've got some timber in the car port at Cremorne that would be suitable
    Only too happy to assist.
    Work out what you want to build and a cutting list for rough sawn timber that from which we can work out the timber you want in rough sawn boards or slabs.... you willbe doing the thicknessing and processing of the boards......from what I understand, that is part of the HSC requirements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by corbs View Post
    Embed some magnets in the box which could then be attracted by a sliding rail inside the short drawer with matching magnets. With the sliding rail pulled forward the magnets will be too far appart to pull the box, then slide the rail(s) back to attach with the magnets on the box and pull both out together. You will need to use rare earth magnets to get this to work.
    That sounds very interesting, I saw the puzzle boxes and they used magnets too looks soo cool hahah I will ask my teacher for any ideas how to make it.

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    Well I showed him a picture on the net, he didnt say nothing about the difficulty, he just told me that it was too small and that you will easily finish it well under a year so yeah.

    I have decided on what to make thanks to Corb hahah It will be something very similar, maybe even the same as the James Krenov cabinets. I have shown the picture to both my woodwork and head teachers and they have told me it is a very good furniture to build, shows wide range of skills and techniques etc.

    Heres the picture: JK's current work

    And about the timber, asked him today aswell, he told dont worry about the quality, you can just use cheap wood (say radiata pine?) and then stain it to the colour you want. You reckon thats a good idea?

    Ward I will get to back to you soon about the timbers yeah as I have not done the cutting list yet, and I am still not sure what timber to choose so yeah.

    Thanks for all your help guys!! I appreciate it alot!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony_ View Post

    And about the timber, asked him today aswell, he told dont worry about the quality, you can just use cheap wood (say radiata pine?) and then stain it to the colour you want. You reckon thats a good idea?
    Personally, Tony, I'd take advantage of someone like Greg Ward, or Harper Timber if you want someone closer to home.

    Radiata dints easily (you have to keep it safe in the workshop for a year,) scratches easily, and tears out with anything other than blunt tools. And even when it's stained, it still looks like you've put lipstick on a pig.

    I'd use quality timbers. To be honest, for the amount you want, you're probably looking at $20 difference. No-brainer, really

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    Do two. Make all your mistakes in pine on the first one and then go for something nicer for the second.

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    Good advice from Eddie and Burraboy re timber. If you make a scale model in pine or MDF (it's called a macquette) it wil help you resolve your design and highlight possible construction problems, and should contribute to your marks.
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    I'm not saying don't make it out of pine but I personally wouldn't make a Krenov inspired cabinet out of the stuff. Before you decide what wood to use get in contact with Greg Ward who has already replied to this thread. There are some beautiful cabinet timbers available to you for not much more than what it will cost you to make in pine.

    Australian Red Cedar is beautiful stuff to work with and finishes very nicely. The main cabinet could be made with it which will keep weight down and a couple of bookmatched Silky Oak doors will give a wow factor. Rosewood can also be amazing stuff.

    You have an opportunity to make something very special here that could become a family heirloom if done properly. If made out of pine it won't become that.
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    I agree - use a nice quality timber such as red cedar and you won't regret it. It won't be much more expensive than radiata. Greg's prices are cheap (compare them to other timber suppliers and you'll see)

    I made a hall table out of the cedar Greg has. It's really easy to work with (it's quite soft) and finishes beautifully!

    Good luck,
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    Hey guys it's been awhile since I last posted, just wanted to tell you guys the timbers came and everything else has been good. Just wanted to share my progress so far. I encountered MANY problems already, (lol) luckily it was all resolved so hopefully I could get marks for that. I felt that I haven't done much but hey lets just see what happens throughout the year. I attached pictures of my progress and problems so check them out thanks!
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    Nice work so far Your woods look a hell of a lot better than pine I love the satisfaction of taking a full slab of wood, breaking it down, dressing it then turning it into something I can use or look at knowing what it once was. Thanks for the update and best of luck with the rest of the project.
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    Looking forward to seeing this come together.
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    Look forward to seeing the grain in the red cedar. Should be very nice.
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    Hey guys sorry for not posting for a while, it has been a busy year with hsc and all. Today was the due date for the major project, and I must say I am proud of what I have achieved considering that I was clueless in Year 11. Wished I still had a week or two, however pretty relieved it's finally finished.
    I must say there's quite a lot of mistake and is definately different project compared to my friends work. But here it is!

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    Good shot Tony.
    I would be proud too! You certainly picked a piece to show off your dovetail making skills - they look pretty good. Did you do the secret compartment-don't answer that.
    Turning photo 1 into photos 2 and 3.........
    If you wanted to take this further, read James Krenov's books to see where he is coming from and then reassess your own cabinet. Not only do you have a piece to be proud of there but also a great teaching tool.

    Well done.
    Cheers, Tony.

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