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  1. 25th June 2020, 08:36 PM #1
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    Default The price difference for squares.

    The price difference for squares.

    I was in everyone’s favourite large green shed,the other day buying some screws as you would because the stock I normally carry was out.
    An some dimb wit forgot to tell the parts department to raise a purchase invoice for more supplies.

    Hence I took it to the department of wallet, and purchased more screws,
    Now , the issue here is , I’m a bit off square drive fan, despite my surname resemua cross in a screw , I’m over Philips drive ,besides they only use one L.

    But , bloody fire an brims stone ,see if you figure out why I’m upset.
    Note point, yes I know there are other places and other brands.
    But , when you get a job done,it doesn’t look good telling a client your downing tools because you have major issues with something .



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  3. 25th June 2020, 10:26 PM #2
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    What's the problem, you get a 'free' square drive bit. You're also comparing gal. to treated pine screws if I'm not mistaken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aldav View Post
    What's the problem, you get a 'free' square drive bit. You're also comparing gal. to treated pine screws if I'm not mistaken.
    ^^ This - the difference in your comparison will be more to do with the rating of the screw instead of whether it's Philips or Robertson head...

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  6. 26th June 2020, 07:59 AM #5
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    I see my note point was not taken [emoji3064][emoji3064][emoji3064]

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    There really is no comparison ‘tween Robertson drive and Phillips or Pissy jive.
    These should be called Cam-out screws.
    Theres an interesting item on the net re the history of Phillips, money wins every time.
    Get a ball end Robertson driver, makes life a lot easier.
    Duh forget that, we’re in Oz the clever country.
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  8. 26th June 2020, 10:43 AM #7
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    Phillips Drive is designed to cam out because it was designed to be used in production with power drivers and they wanted a drive form that would cam out when excess torque was applied. I am not sure square drive and Robertson drive are the same thing and where possible for batten screws I use hex drive. I have played with Torx drive but I am not convinced though they are available in this country. The last place I would buy fasteners in Bunnings, when I was buying SS for decks a specialist specialist local supplier was many times cheaper than those burglars and phllips drive I buy from Elraco and use good drive bits such as Wehra but they are hard to get and not feasible for site work. In the end the best screw drive form in Oz is Pozidrive and it does not cam out as a rule. I was using hundreds of batten screws at one stage and could buy 100 at a local fastener specialist for the same price as a small pack in Bunnings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clear out View Post
    There really is no comparison ‘tween Robertson drive and Phillips or Pissy jive.
    These should be called Cam-out screws.
    Theres an interesting item on the net re the history of Phillips, money wins every time.
    Get a ball end Robertson driver, makes life a lot easier.
    Duh forget that, we’re in Oz the clever country.
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  10. 26th June 2020, 04:26 PM #9
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    I’m pretty sure the difference is the coating for treated pine on the square drive, note top is external (galvanised probably) and bottom is treated pine (I presume its a polymer coating)
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    I am not a fan of square/robertson drive. You need to be in a direct line or the bit slips and the head gets chewed up.

    I am finding more items at a lower price than Bunnings.
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    I find the square drives are a much better head than Phillips and will always get them when the option is available
    Those treated pine coatings are never to use than the galvanised option if the coating is suitable for your application as they are smoother so have less resistance when driving in
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