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    Quote Originally Posted by Austin_Turner View Post
    I presume lifting the table with the infeed extension on is ok?
    Yes and no. Unless you want to bend a certain part when you raise the table, you have to move the fence across to a minimum certain distance. You can't move it to that distance with the extension in place. If you are willing to bend the sheet metal part of the fence gizmo a bit then you can leave it in place.
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    What’s the current n4400 price Barra?

    N4400 3844.94
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    Fence, that’s a bit dodgy on the lifting not working! I’d cut the sheet metal to make it work...no way I’d take it off!

    Thanks Barra, that should make Derek feel better about the deal he got a few years ago!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Austin_Turner View Post
    my rough guesses above says this is a reasonable price but when someone puts the word ‘urgent’ on their ad it basically means “make me an offer”!
    Agreed. Nothing wrong with the pricing - just that it is MOST unlikely that one person will buy the lot, and it will take some time to find that one possible person.

    If advertised separately at the right price half of it would have been sold by now. That of course does not prevent someone gloriously coming in and saying "I'll take the lot for $9500".

    The seller is balmy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Austin_Turner View Post
    Fence, that’s a bit dodgy on the lifting not working! I’d cut the sheet metal to make it work...no way I’d take it off!
    No trimming allowed if you want a 90° fence. There are those that would say I'm being a pussy by not bending it every time I raise the table, but given that the sheet is integral to the fence being 90.....

    It's basically a design flaw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FenceFurniture View Post
    Not that I want to wander off topic, but unless you know you will never want to joint anything over about 1200 long then you need an infeed extension for the jointer, particularly for any twisted sisters. Roller stands are really only useful for outfeed. A big burly mate can substitute for a jointer infeed, but they aren't always available, and usually consume too much F&B. (ozhunter - quite a large specimen - was here once, jointing some of his Spotty. I said press down here - just after the cutters - fairly hard. I couldn't push the bloody timber through.....)

    A 400mm extension on the thicky outfeed reduces the amount of times you have to nip around to stop the (longer) jobs falling to the floor. Not essential, and I got by for 5 years, but now I wouldn't be without it. It stays on permanently, but the jointer table is removed when not required.

    The one problem with them is the -poor design in the levelling mechanism. Scientifically designed to aggravate yer. It cannot be done accurately without a specialised spanner.....that doesn't exist. The technique relies upon trial and error which is ridiculous. When my adjusting bolt stripped I replaced it with a ¼" bolt which takes a 10-11mm spanner (rather than a 17mm which cannot be turned enough).

    You know Brett, I've never needed the extensions on the A3-31. I am not saying that they are not needed (although I think I did say that ), just that they are not needed by normal people building normal furniture . OK, I rarely need to joint anything over 2m. I cut long boards down to size, the joint them. What have you been building that requires such long lengths? I am curious.

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    Wow, prices have been going up! Is that A3-31 price including the helical head or straight cutters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by derekcohen View Post
    I rarely need to joint anything over 2m. I cut long boards down to size, the joint them. What have you been building that requires such long lengths? I am curious.
    Yes I nearly added that you probably don't need them for, shall we say, "purchased" stock that is pretty straight and well behaved, and I do agree that you can probably do a 2m board if it is pretty straight to start with - maybe even get away with a roller stand just for infeed support.

    However, if you are just acquiring timber to put into stock (much of it reclaimed from fences, funnily enough ) then you want to get the best (longest) possible yield. That's where the twisted sisters (and cupping) can come into play. In these cases I'm not usually looking for a final finish, but a "stackable" finish, which needs to be straight but not necessarily premium finish throughout.

    I just wouldn't be without that capability to save $400 on the jointer infeed. The Thicky outfeed can wait (as I did) but it sho is useful.

    With the difficulty of getting the buggers level - particularly the thicky outfeed - you want to mount it and leave it. The jointer infeed can be taken off and replaced at will without any further adjustment, and thank gawd fer that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by derekcohen View Post
    Wow, prices have been going up!
    I think it's more that the AUD has tanked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FenceFurniture View Post
    Yes I nearly added that you probably don't need them for, shall we say, "purchased" stock that is pretty straight and well behaved, and I do agree that you can probably do a 2m board if it is pretty straight to start with - maybe even get away with a roller stand just for infeed support.

    However, if you are just acquiring timber to put into stock (much of it reclaimed from fences, funnily enough ) then you want to get the best (longest) possible yield. That's where the twisted sisters (and cupping) can come into play. In these cases I'm not usually looking for a final finish, but a "stackable" finish, which needs to be straight but not necessarily premium finish throughout.

    I just wouldn't be without that capability to save $400 on the jointer infeed. The Thicky outfeed can wait (as I did) but it sho is useful.

    With the difficulty of getting the buggers level - particularly the thicky outfeed - you want to mount it and leave it. The jointer infeed can be taken off and replaced at will without any further adjustment, and thank gawd fer that!
    Brett, I generally only use rough sawn timber. Some of it is 3 or 4 metres long x 100mm thick and 250-300mm wide. Big buggers. I still cut it up first. That is the economical way (to preserve thickness).

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    I’ve done a few long pieces (2m+) lately, dining table top for a mate, double computer desk, a bench seat. My little jet 260 has about 550mm infeed and it gets frustrating.

    Ok fence man, no taking the grinder to the hammer...damn what a pain, oh well, better get a felder instead

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