Thread: 2020-2021 Plane Building Challenge

Originally Posted by woodPixel

Hi fellow challengers,

Before a blow a bunch of cash, I've some stupid questions!

What is Naval Brass and where would one buy it?

Apparently its the right stuff. I found some on McMaster-Carr, but I don't know enough except to be dangerous -> McMaster-Carr

Any hints are much appreciated.

I was going to do that list then forgot my apologies.

Brass I buy from

Non Ferrous Metals Australia - George White

I’ve been using cartridge Brass 260.

Cheers Matt.

Also I asked McMaster if they delivered to Oz they said no?.

Cheers Matt

Originally Posted by woodPixel

Hi fellow challengers,

What is Naval Brass and where would one buy it?

Any hints are much appreciated.

These guys Astral Wright have spec details but i couldn't find it on there product list Copper Alloys Naval Brass C46400

Originally Posted by Simplicity

Also I asked McMaster if they delivered to Oz they said no?.

Before all this kicked off I was following BJs Planes on Instagram and he (Melbourne) mentioned he gets his Naval Brass from McMaster-Carr.... Interesting!

Naval brass is sometimes called admiralty brass and is intended for marine applications and also water cooled condensers in power stations. I am not sure that it is the best brass for planes if you are planing on dovetailing. Ian will probably chip in here and my memory is that a more ductile brass is preferred. However, if you are just using a profile for a shoulder plane it may not matter.

Thought I had better mention this before it is clarified and people part with their hard earned.

Regards
Paul

Originally Posted by Bushmiller

Naval brass is sometimes called admiralty brass and is intended for marine applications and also water cooled condensers in power stations. I am not sure that it is the best brass for planes if you are planing on dovetailing. Ian will probably chip in here and my memory is that a more ductile brass is preferred. However, if you are just using a profile for a shoulder plane it may not matter.

Thought I had better mention this before it is clarified and people part with their hard earned.

Regards
Paul

The cartridge brass 260 is preferred because it can be peened,i.e. it is softer and it’s not prone to flaking ideal for metal dovetails.

Cheers Matt.

Found this blade and cap iron assembly on fleabay if anyone fancies knocking up a spar plane...

Spar iron.jpg

I'm still on the fence ATM...

Originally Posted by Chief Tiff

I'm still on the fence ATM...

The organisers said they have a special deal going at the moment just for the fence sitters.

Start yourself a thread in the challenge directory. Start any time during the competition if you find the time and enthusiasm.

If, when the big day arrives, you do not have anything to put on the judging table, they will refund your entrance fee.

Originally Posted by IceManDude

i would love to join in... however i have a 16 foot bass boat to finish building before i start another major project!!

Could you put a blade on it?

Attention participants Attention please:

One of the Judges has arrived,
I suggest you try to look busy,and maybe put some Red wine out, just in case they stop by for a look.

Cheers Matt.

I am just wondering to what extent it was explained to the aforementioned judge that these planes in the challenge are not the type intended to fly knowing of his interest in the flighted type. Just in case, I might have to design in some wings: Purely to curry favour.

I also happen to know that he has an extremely good appreciation of red plonk so I am continuing my research in that direction too. Need to have all bases covered.

Regards
Paul

Originally Posted by Bushmiller

I am just wondering to what extent it was explained to the aforementioned judge that these planes in the challenge are not the type intended to fly knowing of his interest in the flighted type. Just in case, I might have to design in some wings: Purely to curry favour.

I also happen to know that he has an extremely good appreciation of red plonk so I am continuing my research in that direction too. Need to have all bases covered.

Regards
Paul

Nah, you’re covered Bushy, it’s taken a while but I’ve finally worked out how to differentiate between, planes, planes, planes and plains? My recent semi-absence from the forum is due to a realisation of my own mortality and that the aviation photo collection (>50,000 images), library and artworks need to outlive me and I’ve been assuring that end. To get back to woodwork will be just plane relaxing!

Originally Posted by fletty

Nah, you’re covered Bushy, it’s taken a while but I’ve finally worked out how to differentiate between, planes, planes, planes and plains? My recent semi-absence from the forum is due to a realisation of my own mortality and that the aviation photo collection (>50,000 images), library and artworks need to outlive me and I’ve been assuring that end. To get back to woodwork will be just plane relaxing!

Sounds like a big important job, Fletty.

Fletty,
Just letting you know(Sucking up)
That I’ve been busy all weekend in plane making stuff,
I reckon the others have been slacking off.

Cheers Matt.