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    D'oh!!

    here is pic 2.

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    An update,

    All the structural work is done, bar the seats. This is a prototype hull and I need to paddle her first to work out what works best for me.

    Pic 1 gunwhales going on. Thanks Mik, Your advice re the Hoop Pine was priceless!

    Pic 2 & 3 overall shots. i will clean her up in the morning and cart her outside to get some better piccies.

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    Ok Peter, how about a fair race then.
    I recon I can get mine in the water before you get your eureka.
    Oh by the way how's that dust extraction going
    cheers
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    Some more piccies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundman View Post
    Ok Peter, how about a fair race then.
    I recon I can get mine in the water before you get your eureka.
    Oh by the way how's that dust extraction going
    cheers
    cough!

    And cough, cough!! for you too Mick!

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    Hi Mick,
    I know you have worked of detailed plans and please dont see this as critecisemj just and observation that it apears from the photos that all the end butt joines are in the same spot across the beam and not staggered I would have thought it stronger to have them staggered.
    The greater danger to most of us is not that we aim too high and miss it, but that we aim too low and reach it.

    Regards Lewy

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    Having started the Laker I thought the same thing but as it is also glassed inside and out the strenth issue isn't quite as serious as it might seem.
    On other builds I have staggered them but I reckon it should be ok. Hairy seems to think they are strong enough and so does the designer.
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    Thanks guys,

    G'day Lewy,

    Hi Mick,
    I know you have worked of detailed plans and please dont see this as critecisemj just and observation that it apears from the photos that all the end butt joines are in the same spot across the beam and not staggered I would have thought it stronger to have them staggered.
    No problems mate.This is the eighth Jem Watercraft boat I have built from a couple of simple pirogues, a pirogue/canoe hybrid, A decked ocean touring canoe, a couple of kayaks to a dedicated, high performance sit on top fishing kayak and now this Canadian. All have had the panel splices aligned and all have stood up to my hard use and abuse beautifully.

    I think staggered joints MIGHT be a little stronger but I really don't know. Matt has designed his beautiful boats this way and that is good enough for me. I have used them in small surf and shot gentle rapids in most of them and never had a problem. Perhaps joints done with a ply butt plate would increase their strength. Matt offers directions on how to do this as an alternative but I don't think they are as elegent as the fibreglass panel splice.

    Pete,

    Have faith in Matt's design mate. It is a good one. I would trust the man with my life. (and do)

    Cough cough to you to Midgee

    Gonna start a 14 footer soon.

    Seriously though, my wood work is not of furnature quality. The joints don't look like they grew there but are still very strong and reasonable attactive. I would call this one as being a 5 yard boat.

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    That is a pretty craft. Well one. Do you make your own paddles???

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    G'day CC and thanks mate.

    Do you make your own paddles???
    Yeah mate. Have knocked up a couple of roughy single blades. Haven't attempted a kayak paddle yet. For the time and effort spent in achieving a very good kayak paddle, I just don't think it is worth it.

    This one in laminated Hoop Pine, I think. Recovered from some very old tongue and groove wall boards. First attempt.





    This one is laminated, using strips of Surian (SP?), Hoop, Meranti and some obscure white looking pine. I was just fooling round with colours.





    Both came in at about 200 grams heavier than a plastic blade, aluminium shaft job and i am pretty happy with that.





    I had sort of forgot about my build thread here - sorry. Been a bit of "other stuff" going on in my life in recent months.

    Long story short, I have had the opportunity of paddling this boat in a variety of conditions now, from dead calm, skinny water to gentle white water and a moderate chop. It is easily, the best open canoe I have ever paddled. Fast - very fast for a Canadian style canoe, stable and responsive and tracks like it is on rails. Glide between strokes just seems to go on for ever.

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