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Thread: Band Saw Help
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27th November 2008, 11:17 AM #1
Band Saw Help
Hi all
I have been given this beautiful old machine which I have been told is circa 40's/50's. It is missing one guide that sits behind the blade.
If I have to I will get a modern conversion kit as I am sure I can find something to fit or something I can at least make fit but I would prefer to keep the machine as close to original as possible.
If anyone has anything like this guide in a dark and dusty corner of their shed and is willing to part with it then please get in touch with me.
Jim
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27th November 2008, 01:07 PM #2SENIOR MEMBER
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Hi Jim,
I went through a similar process of restoring an old 1920s cast iron bandsaw that I got for $10. It also had bits missing from the blade guides. I was going to make some guides from scratch but ended up coming across a good set of guides at a price I could not refuse.
No harm in asking but the chances someone will have the same guides to spare, could be slim.
Bit hard to see from the image as its a bit dark but it looks like the guide on the right is missing a round thrust pad? If there isn't much missing maybe you should consider getting it made up or do it your self (like you mention) if you have a lathe. As they look basically complete I'd be loathe to throw them away - good to keep things original like you say. Although the new blade guides I got for my old saw are way better than what would have been the old ones.
Have to see how they go when you get it working - a well controlled blade (via blade guides that work well) is important.
Regards,
Steve
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27th November 2008, 07:55 PM #3
Jim,
I suggest you post this over in the powered tools section of the site,"We must never become callous. When we experience the conflicts ever more deeply we are living in truth. The quiet conscience is an invention of the devil." - Albert Schweizer
My blog. http://theupanddownblog.blogspot.com
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27th November 2008, 09:19 PM #4
Jeez Jim, a bit like a needle in a haystack for that part.
Can't help, but good luck on the search, mate.
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27th November 2008, 09:50 PM #5Retired
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Try a local machine shop some of these guys might know some one that can make you a new part.
Cheers Bob.
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27th November 2008, 10:37 PM #6
Jim,
That back bearing is similar to ones on modern saws so you just need one that will fit on the metal post. The other way is make the post fit a new bearing. I dont know if you have any large tool outlets in Darwin so if you do take the guide asembly along and see what will fit. The other option is a place that sells bearings (try yellow pages) as they should have something that comes close.
As for the side bearing blocks hardwood works better than the metal ones so make you'r own. Check out the bandsaw section of this site for all sorts of good info. Google will get you some info on tuneing a bandsaw. Good luck with it as it is a great looking old saw.
Regards
John
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27th November 2008, 11:57 PM #7
It's unclear if there's a brand name on the badge. If there is, you might be able to find old documentation at Old Woodworking Machines: http://www.owwm.com/
Lots of old catalogues, instruction manuals, and the like.
If there are any patent numbers displayed, try Google patents ( http://www.google.com/patents ). The specifications and drawings may display the original intent, although designs are often changed during manufacturing development and evolution.
JoeOf course truth is stranger than fiction.
Fiction has to make sense. - Mark Twain
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28th November 2008, 11:10 PM #8
Thanks for the info guys. I have already replaced that thrust bearing with a standard bearing which will work. I was just hoping I might find something similar as all the new stuff I have seen for years has standard bearing to do the thrust job. I'm a Carpenter/Joiner by trade and have worked with many saws but have only ever seen this set up on the older machines so I was assuming that I would not get anything like it new. Just a bit of wishful thinking that someone might just go...."Wow I have something just like that in my bits and pieces draw"..........Oh and by the way it is a Hyco which later became Woodfast and they can't help me except to say its maybe 40's 0r 50's.
Jim
May the toilet of life never splash back at you.
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28th November 2008, 11:41 PM #9
Check out Carter Band Saw products.
http://www.carterproducts.com/produc....asp?cat_id=17
Check with your local wood working tool supplier and see if they can order from Carter.
Most of the thrust bearings and guides are fairly standard, even after all these years.
You may be able to simply replace the stud and bearing.
Rebuilt the guides from a 1950s Do All saw with over the counter stuff from them, looked like it was factor original when I was done.
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29th November 2008, 11:25 AM #10
What swamp did it crawl out of?..... Go to www.owwm.com a site deticated to restoring old WWing machines.
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