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10th February 2008, 09:05 PM #1GOLD MEMBER
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Problem with my bandsaw
Not sure if this is the right forum
I am having an electrical problem with my bandsaw and wondered if anyone has any ideas.
It is tripping the house's Earth leakage breaker. It does it with the switch on the saw turned off - as soon as power is applied at the wall switch the breaker trips. The switch on the saw is a simple 240V domestic wall switch (DPST). When the power lead is disconnected from the saw and plugged into the wall the breaker does not trip. With the power lead connected to the switch, but the motor lead not connected the breaker does not trip. When the motor is connected up the breaker trips. Remember that this is with the switch in the "off" position so no power should be getting beyond the switch anyway. All the switch contacts show appropriate short/open circuit when tested by a digital multimeter in both positions.
Can anyone suggest where to look for the problem? I am intending to replace the switch, but was wondering if anyone else has seen similar symptoms and can suggest something else to look for? For info, the saw was in use when it first tripped out the breaker.
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PeterThe other day I described to my daughter how to find something in the garage by saying "It's right near my big saw". A few minutes later she came back to ask: "Do you mean the black one, the green one, or the blue one?".
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11th February 2008, 09:59 AM #3GOLD MEMBER
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11th February 2008, 10:38 AM #4
Peter,
take an air hose and give the motor a good blow out.
As mentioned, switches are single pole and only switch the active conductor. The ELCB monitors earth leakage from the entire circuit, active and neutral, any leakage will register once an unbroken path is established from the ELCB to the leakage point. (There will be a small current flow to earth and no flow from active to neutral, so ELCB trips)
Also blow any dust from the switch on the bandsaw. Another potential leakage site.Those were the droids I was looking for.
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11th February 2008, 10:52 AM #5
AS NCArcher Says, blow out the motor, sounds like the problem is there and if blowing it out doesn't fix it, maybe the capacitor is shot or you've got a broken wire or stuffed windings in the motor.
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DJ
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11th February 2008, 10:54 AM #6GOLD MEMBER
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The other day I described to my daughter how to find something in the garage by saying "It's right near my big saw". A few minutes later she came back to ask: "Do you mean the black one, the green one, or the blue one?".
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11th February 2008, 07:57 PM #7Senior Member
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Hi Peter,
you say that it first happened when the motor was running. Did you smell anything burning or as if something was overheated in the area of the motor? What can happen is that some insulation in the motor can become slightly broken down so that the leakage current gets up past the trip value of the RCD switch.
As people have pointed out, it can be from the neutral wire to earth as well as from the phase (live) wire to earth.
We had a similar problem in our house with the lights some weeks after I put in a cheap but very stylish light fitting that my wife bought. The RCD breaker would trip despite all the lights being turned off. It was traced down by completely disconnecting (all 3 wires) each light fitting in turn until the RCD breaker stopped tripping.
So try cleaning out the motor and then seeing if it still blows. If it does, then something in the motor is managing to act as a high resistance conductor and your next step is to remove the motor and take it to an electrical service shop for a checkover.
Good luck.
PaulNew Zealand
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11th February 2008, 09:44 PM #8
Measure volts between neutral and earth........
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