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1st October 2012, 03:22 PM #1
Bandsaw Blades and Finish (and Sharpening)
I am into handsaws, and people contemplate sharpening them themselves - and discuss rake angle, fleam, gullet slope, pitch, set, ad nauseum.
Re bandsaws we discuss different types of blades - bi-metal etc, width, and tooth pitch.
I don't know if anyone on this forum sharpens the average size bandsaw blade? or it is off to the saw doctor. We resharpen chainsaws - even use retail circular saw setups (hopefully) for consistency. I have only seen resharpening setups mainly for large mill-size bandsaw blades.
So - the main motivation for this thread is that I have seen two queries on this forum re the cut being achieved by bandsaws and I thought it might be worth having a "library" or reference thread so that people can see what they might expect from their bandsaw.
Dengy started this thread: https://www.woodworkforums.com/f27/pr...ed-gum-158669/
He was using a 3 tpi 1/2" blade - not sure the size of bandsaw - and getting these results:
and previously Hermit had had :
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1st October 2012, 06:16 PM #2
Dengy changed to a 13mm 3tpi bi-metal blade along with other adjustments and achieved this:
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1st October 2012, 06:38 PM #3
Peter (pjt) Illustrated two blades ...
a Woodmaster 1tpi bi-metal (L-R-straight) toothed 1-1/4" wide ...
and a CT (Tungsten Carbide) straight-toothed blade with a wide cutting tooth followed by a 'triple-cut' raker. 1" wide ...
There was also a close-up shot of his crotch.
Probably some kind of eucalypt.
The CT teeth ... the band is 30 thou wide ... the cutting tooth is 42 thou
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1st October 2012, 06:46 PM #4
Pjt's
Woodslicer bi-metal blade 3/4" wide 3-4tpi variable pitch.
my mistake - this is the Woodmaster 1tpi bi-metal blade again.
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1st October 2012, 07:00 PM #5
I have a 1" wide 'plain' single-metal blade set L-R-straight 1.3tpi. When I got it I didn't know much, and asked for a 'resaw' blade.
The band is 43 thou, and the teeth are set 30-40 thou in each direction = 0.8-1.0 mm - that is a lot!
I was very surprised when I measured it, and would have expected a rougher result off those figures.
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A chunk of Cypress pine semi-green:
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Cypress and some old Jarrah - with a section planed for contrast:
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2nd October 2012, 01:16 AM #6
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2nd October 2012, 02:12 AM #7
To Sharpen.
Hi All,
Knew a Chap awhile back, that did his 1/2" x 4 TPI. Blades, with an Angle Grinder.
He made a Slip Jig for the A/G, to slip in & back, a Slot for the Blade, with 2 pieces of Dowel approx. 2 Ft. apart, overhead & away he went.
Had the Blade done in no time.
Could be easier these Days as we now have that 2mm. A/G. Wheel.
May even be able to do the fine Teeth Blades, say 3/8" x 6 TPI.Regards,
issatree.
Have Lathe, Wood Travel.
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2nd October 2012, 05:30 AM #8
sounds like a good information.
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2nd October 2012, 05:33 AM #9
Paul
There are sharpening machines available for bandsaws such as I use on my mill. It uses a 11/4" blade with either a 3/4" or 1" pitch. I looked up the specs on the machine from Dinasaw and it will go down to 5/16", which is pretty close to 3tpi. The catch is that the machines are not cheap.
Cutting edge Sharpening Equipment
I think it would be possible to use a 4" angle grinder mounted in a cut off device perhaps with a older style (thicker) cutting disc. The disc itself needs to be profiled with a granite stick or similar to suit the tooth shape. The difficulty is obtaining consistency over every tooth. The concept is simple enough. Take the barest amount possible off the face of the tooth and maintain the depth of the gullet. I think you would need to be very good to do this completely by eye and hand alone. I should point out this is for a rip tooth. Cross cut bands will probably have the tooth at an angle and present a more complicated task.
The Dinasaw machine itself is excellent but probably out of the reach of most people using their saw for home use. In fact the sharpener probably costs more than the average medium size bandsaw.
The last option is filing, but so many teeth! I think I would take it into the saw doctor.
Regards
PaulBushmiller;
"Power tends to corrupt. Absolute power corrupts, absolutely!"
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2nd October 2012, 07:46 AM #10
I forgot to note I started another thread on sharpening
Heh heh ... cough ...
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f27/ba...pening-159918/
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3rd October 2012, 11:38 AM #11
From the wood-gears guy ...
Why bandsaw blades squeal
Stoning a bandsaw blade
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3rd October 2012, 12:25 PM #12
I think this explains it pretty clearly ...
http://www.thinkerf.com/Downloads/WashBand.PDF
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4th October 2012, 03:30 AM #13
The woodslicer I have used is a variable pitch blade, not sure of the teeth set atm but it does give a clean cut, but once blunt the finish quality does drop, as does all the blades, the stoning of the blade, the same thing is done on tenon/dovetail saws to remove a tiny bit of set which should result in a smoother finish to the cut face.
Pete
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11th October 2012, 06:58 AM #14
Hmmm ... look familiar? ... The Deltagram ... January 1932 ... how far we've come ...
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12th October 2012, 12:02 AM #15
I cut some veneers using the woodslicer blade on the 14" BS.
I cut 4 pieces of Black Wattle with a used blade, then I put a new one on and cut the BH Sass.
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It does give a good finish, a bit of vibration at the start which then settles down.
Pete
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