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    Default Bandsaw recommendations

    Hi all,

    i am getting fed up of the resale prices of second hand units - they seem to be 80% of the initial price....

    i missed out on a cracking old unit as i just couldnt get it home safely

    so i am starting to think about buying new. (its my birthday at the end of next month)

    (same thing happened to me with my planned table saw upgrade - i ended up with a carbatec cabinet saw)

    if i was looking for a saw which would not need upgrading later - (i am a hobbyist rather than a pro) - what should i be looking for?

    i have started to get into turning and can see me needing to resaw a bit to make blanks etc.
    i really want to give bandsaw boxes a go - they look fun.

    is 14 inches enough machine? dont want to go crazy with cost if i can help it - likewise, if 14 isnt enough i dont want to have to replace it....

    my current saw is from aldi and has a tiny height - and is just rubbish - but it did what i needed it to do at the time.

    i have been looking at the carbatec/timbecon/hafco units - all seem pretty similarly priced, of the bunch i prob prefer the look of the sherwood....

    i can see that the laguna is a better machine than the carbys - and the other clones, but i cant see myself paying the premium

    please enlighten this beffudled newbie in the magical arts of the bandsaw.

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    I bought the Sherwood 14" standard from Timbecon
    I'm learning what it/I can do as I go along

    It cuts nice straight cuts when resawing especially after I put a new blade on from Henry bros
    and a kreg fence and micro adjust (standard fence is a bit ordinary)

    every time I use it I become more confident and think of new things I can do with it
    I have no regrets in buying it

    Like you I had to decide between the 3 from timbecon,carbatec and H&F which I beleive are all similar

    you are lucky, you can look at all three in the flesh in melbourne before you buy
    good luck with your decision

    Hodgo

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    for a beginner
    a Laguna bx14 or a Rikon 10-326

    For me I would always go for a brake pedal, so I would actually go for the Rikon 10-353 in a 14"saw

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    Would a carbatec sbw-4800 be a good unit? Being offered around 2k....

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    I had a Rikon one here on the river, Poundy has it now, it was an absolute beauty. Best guide system I’ve ever used and handled everything we threw at it. Go to JC Walsh at Airport west and see Andrew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hangfire View Post
    Would a carbatec sbw-4800 be a good unit? Being offered around 2k....
    I've had that BS for 14 years and still think it is a good machine.
    CT don't seem to have any on display on their website but it is very similar to the H&F 19" 489A BS ($3399) - although that does have auto braking.
    A $2k price would depends upon condition and how straight it cuts.

    FWIW I found the 2HP motor a tad underpowered on deep hard cuts so I replaced it with a 3HP 3P variable speed - nothing stops it now.
    19" BS upgrade
    I've also added a foot brake.
    BobLs bandsaw brake

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    Laguna 14BX is an excellent bandsaw. The biggest limitation is 14" saws can't really run 1" blades (so the fancy TCT tipped resaw blades are out), but that applies to all 14" saws. If you need deeper than 340mm resaw, you will need a bigger saw. I've resawn (from memory it was around 250mm wide) spotted gum boards with mine and it handled the cuts well, spotted gum is very hard and dense. On the delicate side, I've cut 2mm veneers off a burl with a 3/4" bimetal blade, so no complaints there either. Have a decent sled or featherboard setup and the slice thickness is very even.

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    could someone clarify for me, what is wrong with these?

    https://www.timbecon.com.au/sherwood...andard-bandsaw - $1149 - 1150W - 220mm cut height cast aluminium flywheels
    https://www.timbecon.com.au/sherwood-14in-plus-bandsaw - $1699 - 1500W - 340mm cut height - cast iron flywheels
    both 'american style steel bearings'

    both listed as made in china

    5 yr warranty

    Laguna 14/12 Bandsaw CE Model* | Carbatec - $2499 - 1300W - 340mm cut height cast iron flywheels
    ceramic bearings
    2 yr warranty

    Rikon Bandsaw 350mm 10-326 - JC WALSH MACHINERY & SERVICE PTY LTD - $2172 - 1300W - 330mm cut height - assume cast iron flywheels
    top and bottom roller guides

    the quality seems to step up with the timbecon plus model - what is it that i am getting from the rikon/laguna that is worth the extra 5/800 bucks? (kinda pushing it out of my budget really)

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    Hi Hangfire, I would go with the "Sherwood plus" you get a little bigger motor, but a second hand full cast frame would be better, I recently bought a 27 inch and got it home on a car trailer, when buying heavy machines a flat bed car trailer with electric winch is the way to go, you can unload with no help from others.

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    been there done that

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    There is this Taiwan made Bandsaw, which is a bigger machine second hand Bandsaw Carbetec | Power Tools | Gumtree Australia Cardinia Area - Maryknoll | 1290514265

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    thats the one that said they would sell for 2k...

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    i dont have a 15amp circuit

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    If you have any spare slots in your consumer board, you could add 15 amp circuit, I have a Woodfast 8"planer that came with a 15 amp plug, when I put my amp meter on it the start up amp's where around 17, but it runs at only 8 amps, so no problem running it on a standard circuit, the breaker does not trip, because they are designed to allow for initial start up loads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camelot View Post
    If you have any spare slots in your consumer board, you could add 15 amp circuit, I have a Woodfast 8"planer that came with a 15 amp plug, when I put my amp meter on it the start up amp's where around 17, but it runs at only 8 amps, so no problem running it on a standard circuit, the breaker does not trip, because they are designed to allow for initial start up loads.
    Did you check the current when it was under high load ie actually planing some serious hardwood?

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