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23rd November 2022, 10:25 PM #1Senior Member
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Bandsaw tips and tricks
Hello folks
Seen two videos yesterday which I thought were good watches on the subject of resawing,
I've screenshot the tips in question, should folks not wish to watch a timestamped video.
(you'll have to click onto the pictures to see them)
Any of you folk flip the work end for end, to stop a wedge from happening?... new one to me.
The "flip flop" method...
Screenshot-2022-11-23 Tips for cutting perfect  veneers at the bandsaw.jpg
Working that 3tpi blade pretty hard.
Tips for cutting perfect  veneers at the bandsaw - YouTube
I've seen various takes on making sure your cut is parallel with the resaw fence, but I like this one the best I think,
as it is nice and scrimpy.
Screenshot-2022-11-23 Resaw Veneer - YouTube.jpg
Another interesting part of the video, is regarding tuning out the flutter, on a woodmaster CT.
This phenomenon is apparently caused by frequencies/vibration,
Thats what some manufacturers reckon, I can dig up some recent creeker posts for some of this, as it's pretty interesting stuff.
I'd love to see if Tim's blade was tracking in differing spots whilst doing these adjustments?....
i.e the more tension, the further the teeth will hang off the wheels, (presumably that honking cast iron framed Centauro machine still has flat tires)
Kinda makes one question some folks adamant theories about true co-planar wheels not actually working, and only so when not exactly the case.
I've never heard of someone giving frequency being involved in this discussion.
Some food for thought, and especially so for one whom uses the same blade,
as it might not make much sense otherwise.
Screenshot-2022-11-23 Resaw Veneer - YouTube(1).jpg
Resaw Veneer - YouTube
Enjoy
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24th November 2022, 02:32 PM #2
I've used the "flip flop" method for many years, on the bandsaw, table saw, drum sander, thicknesser, etc, well ever since I can remember actually. I do it ripping stock, with or without sleds, particularly for inlay banding and thin rips. I also do it when cross cutting small components for inlay banding. The errors "tend" to cancel. For breaking down stock for further machining it's not so much an issue.
Probably something my Dad taught me or perhaps it's my training as a surveyor kicking in to reinforce mostly Dad's processes. In surveying we attempt to eliminate "most" errors, however some cannot be eliminated but can be greatly minimized by technique. Same applies to wood working. Ever wondered why the last or waste rip from a wide board is tapered (?), when all the rips have been "parallel"??? Cumulative error! If the board is end for ended after each pass the errors tend to cancel - however the rips may still be tapered. A 0.2mm taper per rip may not be noticeable on one rip but by say 7 or 8 passes that quickly becomes 1.5 - 2.0mm.
The errors in wood working include tapers in width, thickness & along the length of a board. On some machines "the error" is through poor alignment / adjustment or poor technique, material properties (tension etc), whilst on others such as an open-end drum sander an "error" is deliberately introduced to minimize the creation of a "step" between passes. This is done by setting the outboard end of the drum slightly higher than the inboard end - which blurs the overlap rather than potentially create a step.
I believe we are losing many traditional skills and processes and the ability to use "errors" in our favor, such as the making of "weather boards" where a rectangular board was ripped slightly off vertical to produce two rhomboidal boards with parallel narrow sides and tapered wide sides.Mobyturns
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25th November 2022, 08:31 AM #3Senior Member
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@Mobyturns, I can't say I've ever consecutively ripped or resawn a full stick of timber, what's become normal practice ripping thin iroko for me, is to
laminate the piece beforehand when making up thickness, i.e a racing stripe up the middle you could call it,
so I've adjusted my saw to cut away from the line rather than the other way round for general purpose work,
(the lamp is only for the photo)
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Here's another way to skin the cat, with Grants video underneath
Screenshot-2022-4-17 Resawing revisited - The Luthier Community(1).jpg
https://youtu.be/teV2SdBB0lQ
Thankfully we have forums and youtube for the ones who are hungry for more information.
Here's a fairly recent upload of an oldie, as many folks recommend Mark Duginske's bandsaw book,
It's likely one of the best out there
https://youtu.be/KEsbR0wLUVo
And I suppose in a similar theme, perhaps some might glean some insight here also.
If even just to look at the possibilities of those extra rails on the newer Felder bandsaws.
https://youtu.be/1bUoHHdLex0
I'll try and see if I have some more saved goodies, as it might be of use to someone,
though most of the tricks I've seen, relate to curve cutting, rather than tips whilst using a larger machine for general work,
Cheers
Tom
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25th November 2022, 09:22 AM #4
Consecutive cuts are simply part of the process when making inlay banding and the laminated inlay pen blanks I make. Typically, the mother block is 70 mm wide, 6 to 10 mm thick and up to 1m long with the resulting cut inlay strips ~1mm thick. With a bandsaw kerf around the ~1mm mark that means some 30 to 35 or more strips are cut from one block. Any error by 30 times accumulates very rapidly, hence the flip between cuts.
I glue the mother block to another waste block of the same thickness and length along one edge. That permits much better control of the block through the bandsaw with less potential for errors due to tilting the block or in feed alignment through the saw. Plus, it keeps fingers away from the blade. Sacrificial table zero clearance inserts made from MDF or "Masonite" also help.
It really does not take much effort to improve both safety and the quality of the finished product, only preparation and some time.Mobyturns
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25th November 2022, 11:23 AM #5Senior Member
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Not really a tip as such, but recently seen a handy dandy "Magnetic Mounting Sewing Machine LED Light Flexible Gooseneck Workbench Lamp"
for six quid it seems worth a shot.
Have a look at it on this UK thread
Tips & Tricks | Page 5 | UKworkshop.co.uk
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