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    1. Does anyone use an actual tension gauge when tensioning up their blade?
    2. Is it worth considering? (getting 15000 psi + by guesswork doesn't thrill me)
    3. Are they incredibly expensive?
    4. Is it worth it?

    Please answer any of the above, 'cause the answer to one will cover the rest as well!!!

    Just want to use my tools as well as I should, and bandsaw blade tension keeps cropping up as being very important for optimum performance, and tends to be difficult to really work out just how tense a blade should be (yeah, I know, high C and all that)

    On that point, as any guitarist will tell you musical pitch of a wire under tension gives an exact measure of that string's tension. Is there any way of utilising this fact for bandsaw blades?
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    Give Henry Bro's a call.( It does depend on the blade.)
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    Check this out, might be of interest

    http://www.homemetalshopclub.org/news/jun02/jun02.html

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    Thanks Sprog.
    What a bunch of frea......

    I tried ringing Henry's, but it was too late in the day on a Friday. Bugger is, I only rang them 2 days ago when I was ordering some new blades. (Couple of 1/8" 14 TPI, and a 1/2" bimetal 3 TPI blade).
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    If you have Taunton "New Best of" series book on shop machinery, there is an article by Mario Rodriquez on making your own tension guage, measuring the stretch with feeler gauges. Based on that, I have a 'get round to it' project to convert one of the plastic digital verniers into a tension gauge.

    I was looking at the commercial ones, but all they are is a standard dial guage with a new face pasted on in a basic frame with a couple of bolts to clamp to the saw blade. There is a new one out that uses some sort of pressure sensing pad, but it will only work on some bandsaws as it goes between the frame & the spring.

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    Good point - hard part would be calibrating it. On that though - given a dial gauge is around $80, shouldn't a bandsaw tension gauge be about the same price?

    Like the idea of a homemade variety......now where did I put my copy of Google....?
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    You don't need a gauge, 80% of bandsaws don't have them there is a message in that

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    Stu, checkout Taunton's site, I think I read an article there about measuring stretch in the blade & relating it to tension.

    I've heard of using cheapo digital verniers clamped to the blade, open jaws to an arbitrary figure, clamp top & bottom jaws to blade, then tension 'til desired stretch is achieved.


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    I use a combination of a thumbnail and a calibrated ear.

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    Maybe a guitar tuner and a plectrum... Try B#

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    Wouldn't the "desired" note vary with width, length & thickness of the blade?

    I'm another who plays the BS by ear. I simply back off the guides and tension until I get a nice note (any note!) instead of a dull twang/thud/rattle.

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    Is tension really that important? In a Fine Woodworking article by Michael Fortune (December 2004), he suggests undertensioning enough that the blade deflects about 1/4" without the fingertips going white (blade stationary of course or fingers go red!:eek::eek::eek:. I've been using this technique with no problems so far other than adding a little more tension to stop the blade slapping against the back of the frame on one blade.
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    I think that it depends on the saw. I bought a gauge from Louis Iturra in Florida when I first got my 24" saw and was having difficulties. I have used it twice to calibrate myself WRT tension. It turns out that the 1" Lenox blade that I installed last year is staying on the saw, and the tension stays on too, so the gauge may not see much use. Frankly, the quality of the cut and the blade tracking should be your guide to tension*

    *unless, like me, you are of the 'more is better' school. A big saw can easily over-tension a 1/2" blade. Blade failure and weld rupture is an experience not soon forgotten.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTIT
    Is tension really that important? In a Fine Woodworking article by Michael Fortune (December 2004), he suggests undertensioning enough that the blade deflects about 1/4" without the fingertips going white (blade stationary of course or fingers go red!:eek::eek::eek:. I've been using this technique with no problems so far other than adding a little more tension to stop the blade slapping against the back of the frame on one blade.
    Surely that would depend on how much blade is exposed between the guides though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CameronPotter
    Surely that would depend on how much blade is exposed between the guides though...

    Cam
    Cam- He's referring to a 14" saw so I suppose he means with the guides in the uppermost position. When I got my saw (16" Hafco), I was told you had to wind up the tension until all the spring was fully compressed then another couple of turns for good measure. I found this was twisting everything and I couldn't 'tune' the drift out of it or keep anything constant. Since slackening off a bit, drift adjustments have been much easier to make and hold.
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