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    After spending 2 hours reading through the threads on this section of the forum, it appears there are a lot of choices when it comes to shopping for a new saw. I need (want) one about 16" size, single phase, capable of resawing about 200 mm, mostly Rosewood and fine grained stuff. probably able to take a 20mm band. I already have a 12" Hyco for small curvy stuff, just looking for a bigger machine.
    Could anyone make a list, from absolute Rolls Royce standard, down to Hyundai Excel standard, of machines which you would deem suitable? Price is not an issue as I'm using it professionally. Thanks.

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    not necessarily in this order
    Hammer 4000
    Hammer 3400
    Laguna 14"
    Rikon 14" Delux
    Generic 14" saw
    should all readily resaw at least 300 mm, some will cut pieces up to 400 mm thick
    regards from Alberta, Canada

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    Panhans (I dont think they are available in Australia/NZ)
    Agazzani (no longer in business but well made)
    Hema
    ACM
    Centauro (SCM bandsaw is made by Centauro, I bought a new SCM S400P couple of years ago and there is a massive Centauro mark on the back of it)
    Felder (FB640, 740 and 840 are made by ACM, Rebadged as Felder) FB610, FB510 are made by Felder themselves.
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    Thanks for the information, I have seen a Rikon 10-353 advertised, brand new but second hand price. Anyone seen or heard of these? I see you recommended one but not this particular model

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    Quote Originally Posted by riverbuilder View Post
    Thanks for the information, I have seen a Rikon 10-353 advertised, brand new but second hand price. Anyone seen or heard of these? I see you recommended one but not this particular model
    as my profile says, I'm back in Canada.
    I'm pretty certain that the 10-353 model is the Australian voltage (240 volt, 50 Hz) version of this saw Rikon® 14" Deluxe Bandsaw (Model 10-326) - Lee Valley Tools
    Resaw capacity is 13 inches
    regards from Alberta, Canada

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    Rikon have an AUS arm now (not sure how recent it is but ti feels "new" to me) and this is their bandsaw list. Here is the 353. They also have a dealer list there. Trend Timbers in Sydney had them at the show however many weeks ago it was.

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    Add Laguna 18 bx to the list too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by riverbuilder View Post
    Thanks for the information, I have seen a Rikon 10-353 advertised, brand new but second hand price. Anyone seen or heard of these? I see you recommended one but not this particular model
    I saw one at the recent Melbourne show, thought it was interesting. I myself have an old H&F BP355 unit, but my Men's Shed has a Laguna 14-BX, so I compared it to that. I also have use of a much larger band saw at my turning club.

    The Rikon seemed to me to be a fairly well thought out unit, not overly brilliant, but I would be happy with one.

    The blade guides (upper and lower) are quite large bearings and require no tools to adjust, something the people on the stand were eager to demonstrate. I did think it was a pretty good system. The Laguna runs ceramic slider guides, which are reasonably easy and quick to adjust. I know this as I've adjusted our unit a few times. I would suggest that both systems are just slightly different, but essentially they are even.

    The Rikon and the Laguna come with two dust outlets, with the Laguna having both at the rear, while the Rikon has the top one on the side and the bottom at the rear. Both of them have a 45º downward top dust outlet.

    The Rikon table has a terrific rack and pinion system for adjustment. It runs -10º one way to a bit more than 45º the other way. The rack and pinion is to me a great feature. But to be honest I hardly ever use that feature and I don't think I have swung the Laguna table from horizontal in the two years we've had it.

    The Laguna is 1865W and runs on a 10A circuit, while the Rikon is 2235W and requires 15A. The Rikon motor (from memory) was plated at 12A.

    The Laguna has an optional light, which I would never wish to use without it fitted. In short, that long double jointed Laguna light is brilliant. It can go on the top or the side of the bandsaw. I have two of these on my wood lathe and once again, just brilliant. They are a Tungsten globe unit and deliver a semi concentrated beam to where you point it.

    Both have a wheel kit, but I've never seen either of them.

    The laguna does have one outstanding feature, a super quick disc brake. At my shed that brake is nothing short of brilliant. You touch the brake and in an instant the power is cut and the blade stops, as in really stops. This feature alone, is worth it over almost any other band saw I've used.

    I think the Rikon is a worthy contender for many people, but if I were to upgrade after winning tattslotto, I would have the Laguna for one reason alone; that foot brake.

    Mick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimark View Post
    I saw one at the recent Melbourne show, thought it was interesting. I myself have an old H&F BP355 unit, but my Men's Shed has a Laguna 14-BX, so I compared it to that. I also have use of a much larger band saw at my turning club.

    The Rikon seemed to me to be a fairly well thought out unit, not overly brilliant, but I would be happy with one.

    The blade guides (upper and lower) are quite large bearings and require no tools to adjust, something the people on the stand were eager to demonstrate. I did think it was a pretty good system. The Laguna runs ceramic slider guides, which are reasonably easy and quick to adjust. I know this as I've adjusted our unit a few times. I would suggest that both systems are just slightly different, but essentially they are even.

    The Rikon and the Laguna come with two dust outlets, with the Laguna having both at the rear, while the Rikon has the top one on the side and the bottom at the rear. Both of them have a 45º downward top dust outlet.

    The Rikon table has a terrific rack and pinion system for adjustment. It runs -10º one way to a bit more than 45º the other way. The rack and pinion is to me a great feature. But to be honest I hardly ever use that feature and I don't think I have swung the Laguna table from horizontal in the two years we've had it.

    The Laguna is 1865W and runs on a 10A circuit, while the Rikon is 2235W and requires 15A. The Rikon motor (from memory) was plated at 12A.

    The Laguna has an optional light, which I would never wish to use without it fitted. In short, that long double jointed Laguna light is brilliant. It can go on the top or the side of the bandsaw. I have two of these on my wood lathe and once again, just brilliant. They are a Tungsten globe unit and deliver a semi concentrated beam to where you point it.

    Both have a wheel kit, but I've never seen either of them.

    The laguna does have one outstanding feature, a super quick disc brake. At my shed that brake is nothing short of brilliant. You touch the brake and in an instant the power is cut and the blade stops, as in really stops. This feature alone, is worth it over almost any other band saw I've used.

    I think the Rikon is a worthy contender for many people, but if I were to upgrade after winning tattslotto, I would have the Laguna for one reason alone; that foot brake.

    Mick.
    Many thanks Mick, good info there. The Rikon I’ve looked at and am almost ready to pull the trigger on also has a foot brake with a power shut off, a nice feature.

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