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  1. #1
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    Default These guides look dodgy to me.

    How interchangeable are bandsaw parts?

    The bearing race guides on my old Rexon RBS-12A seem strange. The bearings which form the top guides run in line with the blade, not perpendicular like most modern saws. They don't run on the blade to prevent twisting, just sorts alongside. Plus there's nothing at the back of the blade to support it. I'm getting big wavy cuts and the guides don't seem to help.

    I'm cutting mostly rip cuts in old, dry, black bean and other Australian hardwoods with a half inch, 3 TPI blade (TCT I think? From H&F)

    Can the guide block be changed to something a little more functional? Something from the current century, decade even?

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    Redbeard

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    That guide block casting looks very similar to the one on my older Carbatec 18" bandsaw. In lieu of the two bearings mine has round wood/friction material guides that bear directly on the blade. Those two bearings look like a jerry built job to me. A thrust bearing should be located behind the guides in the mounting hole you can see at the rear top of the mounting block. Despite undertaking some intensive searches for suitable guides for my saw I've never been able to locate any. I've found any greasy hard wood, Spotted Gum for example, works pretty well for guide material.

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    Aldav

    I certainly agree with you about the side guides I've wondered about them being an aftermarket/dodgy installation. And if that mounting hole at the back was in line with the blade I'd agree with you about that as well but it's way off to one side it looks like a mount for a circle cutting guide, like the ones h&f sell. It could probably be adapted to the purpose.

    I'm thinking I've got some Gympie messmate which would make a nice hard guide is pretty dry but a couple of days in some linseed oil would fix that.

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    They look the same as the Elektra Beckum guides.
    I can't see what the problem is if they are not made of the same pot metal.
    I copied the design as it was the simplest to get the job done, rough as a pigs .
    If it were to be upgraded, it would have to be tool-less adjustment.





    Tom

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    The thrust bearing is generally a bigger diameter and the rear of the blade rides on the edge of it, not the centre, that's why the offset mounting. Looking on the net they do look exactly like Elektra Beckum guides - weird!

    On my saw the guide blocks are located by a grub screw in the front of the mounting bracket, the bottom of the bracket is not detachable so I couldn't use that type of guide, wouldn't be able to get them in.

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    I have a Taiwanese? bandsaw (No name or origin known) that had the rear bearing running on the tire -so to speak with a mild steel sleeve. Kinda ok till the bearing died -then the back of the blade sliced through from friction. Can get the bearing in one size only -the sleeve is an issue and the whole set up was not ideal. The bearing was held in a yoke screwed in or out on a threaded shaft in line with the blade.

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    Thanks Tom, I think you've put me on the right path. It looks like what I have is the same as the Elektra Beckum guides, dodgy metal and all.

    I found this on another thread
    https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/top...ink_source=app

    With links to photos of guides identical to mine.

    There was also a link to this
    Blade Guide Upgrade Kit For - Elektra Beckum BAS 315 & 316 Bandsaws - Bedford Saw & Tool - Tools, Accessories, Woodworking Machinery

    Which looks like the solution to at least some of my woes.

    You guys rock

    Cheers
    Redbeard

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    Redbeard

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