Old Hafco 14" tyre slipping

**chevson** · 28th September 2015, 10:18 PM

Just bought myself an old second-hand hafco 14" bandsaw (my first).

I'm trying to find out the model name it seems like a Hafco BP-14A - but I've noticed a few different pictures of these is there a particular sub-model number for this one (there's no model number on the machine there is a serial number).

hafco14Inch.jpg

Is it the same as the hafco 14A W403 and this is the manual http://images.machineryhouse.com.au/...n%20Manual.pdf ?

Is it made by these guys: Hare & Forbes http://www.machineryhouse.com.au/

I've aligned the blade and it turns fine by hand, but after 30 seconds of running the tyre on the top wheel slips off the back and jams up the motor (I've done this twice) with a smell of burnt rubber.

I searched and seems like I could try gluing it (wondering what the best glue is) worried how I might get the glue off if I want to change to a new tyre?

The other option seems to be to get new tyres. Where can I get new tyres from online and how do I get the right size.

As it is my first bandsaw I can't promise that I have the tension right for both tries where the tyre has slipped off, but its not loose

The old tyre had lots of cracks on the edge. The blade is obviously old might need a need one of these too (plan to rip <2mm thick pieces from Australian hardwood floorboards)
hafco Old Tyre.jpg

Anyone have any suggestions thanks?

**issatree** · 29th September 2015, 02:22 AM

Hi chevson,
First up, it wood be nice to know where you really are. Very confusing just using Australia.
If I didn't know any better, I wood say it was the same as my 1987 Universal 14in. BS.
I was thinking along the lines of Contact Adhesive.
Can't think of anything else.
I'm sure you will get an answer, from those that know better.
To tension my Blade, I just " Twang " it, to the Pitch I know.
Works for me.

**orraloon** · 29th September 2015, 11:16 AM

Hi and welcome to the forum.
I would get 2 new tyres and not mess about with glue. Machineryhouse is the place to get them. Being an old machine I would also check the condition of the drive belts and replace if required. Blade needs to be sharp too or you wont get much of a result. Google bandsaw set up or tune a bandsaw.
Regards
John

**chevson** · 29th September 2015, 09:30 PM

First up, it wood be nice to know where you really are. Very confusing just using Australia.

Thanks "The saw" I've updated my profile, I'm in the Wollongong area NSW.
It was difficult to update it I get lots of "chevson, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:" message on various links. E.g. on the top Nav with the "My profile" link and also the link of my username. I had thought that this thread got deleted as I couldn't find it after I posted it. Is this typically for new accounts? can others access these links?

**chevson** · 29th September 2015, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by orraloon

Hi and welcome to the forum.
I would get 2 new tyres and not mess about with glue. Machineryhouse is the place to get them. Being an old machine I would also check the condition of the drive belts and replace if required. Blade needs to be sharp too or you wont get much of a result. Google bandsaw set up or tune a bandsaw.
Regards
John

thanks John, I ask them how much the tyres are I presume that they be able to identify the model of my machine. The drive belts at first glance seem fine. I'll double check them - I presume that they all good if the don't look too worn, stretched or are loose

**orraloon** · 30th September 2015, 09:55 AM

Chevson,
I used to have that model saw and as it is a Hare and Forbes brand they should have all the spares for it. In fact that design is about the most common bandsaw in the world sold under countless brand names so spares should not be too hard to find.
You are right about the belts. I just mentioned that as it will be a long drive for you so you may as well have a list of bits you need to get for that saw.
Regards
John

**Dareen** · 30th September 2015, 06:08 PM

Hi Chevson,
Was in the same boat myself, about 2 years ago and after looking-up all sorts of sites, I read that you can use an old car tube and cut out a 25mm piece and fit that. And that's what I did and after 2 years of hobby use ( about an hour a week ) have had to renew the top tyre once, with the car tube and all works like a charm.
Cheers, Fred

**chevson** · 1st October 2015, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by orraloon

It is a Hare and Forbes brand they should have all the spares for it. In fact that design is about the most common bandsaw in the world sold under countless brand names so spares should not be too hard to find.

thanks guys, ordered new tyres online from Hare and Forbes. $30 and hopefully sorted for a while.

**clear out** · 8th October 2015, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by Dareen

Hi Chevson,
Was in the same boat myself, about 2 years ago and after looking-up all sorts of sites, I read that you can use an old car tube and cut out a 25mm piece and fit that. And that's what I did and after 2 years of hobby use ( about an hour a week ) have had to renew the top tyre once, with the car tube and all works like a charm.
Cheers, Fred

Thats an interesting approach, I have a metal cutting bandsaw with a missing top tyre.
I was considering using a bit of truck inner tube and self vulcanising double sided tape to bring it up to the same O D as the bottom wheel.
What size tube was it you used?
H.

**Dareen** · 8th October 2015, 05:00 PM

Hi clear out, sorry, I have no idea what size the tube was. Just a car tube from my local tyre guy. It was extremely hard to get on the BS wheel, so no worries about it slipping.
Cheers, Fred

**Treecycle** · 15th October 2015, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by chevson

thanks guys, ordered new tyres online from Hare and Forbes. $30 and hopefully sorted for a while.

Have you got the new tyres on yet?
This is an excellent video for setting up your saw.

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