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    Default Hammer N4400 -About to commit

    Hi, Folks,

    I am about to commit and buy a Hammer N4400 bandsaw and this will be a single phase machine with the 4Kw motor. The specs say that the blades it accepts are from 6 to 19 mm and my question is whether this size range will enable me to cover all the ground between Bandsaw boxes and resawing hardwood.

    I keep reading of people using 3mm blades and when I asked I was advised that it was not recommended as they cut the rubber on the wheels.

    Any advise would be welcome as I have no experience with bandsaws and have based my purchasing decision purely on the build quality of the machines.

    Cheers

    jeff......

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    Good choice, BB, you won't be disappointed.
    I use a 1/2" 3TPI blade for most things including ripping. When you need to replace it, get a bimetal one from Henry Bros.
    I have the 3hp model. You will have no trouble breaking down hardwood up to the capacity of the machine (or slicing 0.4mm veneers if that's your thing).
    The 6mm blade should be good for bandsaw boxes, but I've never done them on mine.
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    I've had an n4400 for about 6 months , havent really used it much but everytime time i do i am impressed by its performance. There isnt one bandsaw that can do everything but for the $$$ you'd be hard pressed to find anything better.

    The scale on my machine reads from 5 to 35mm i personally i would stick to 6-25mm blades. The specs might have changed when they went to cast wheels and more HP?

    Henry Bros is the way to go for blades, i just tried their 25mm bi metal blade and was getting 1mm cuts in about 1 min pretty impressive in my book.


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    Hi Jeff

    I have had the N4400 (4 hp) for about 9 months and used it extensively in that time. It is a HUGE step up from my previous 14" (1 1/2 hp) machine. I predominantly work with hardwoods such as Jarrah and She-oak and it handles these without breaking into a sweat.

    I have only used the cheapish 1/2" 3 tpi blades that I got from Felder, and these have served to rip, crosscut and resaw. I have now ordered more blades from Henry Bros and, guess what, they recommended their 1/2" 3 tpi bimetal blades. I am getting a bunch of these plus a 1/4" for tighter curves. (You don't want to push a blade beyond its limit on curves as it will bend and you will lose the integrity).

    I love this saw. It is all - and more - it is cracked up to be.

    One cost that most do not factor in with the Hammer N4400 is the power connection. It produces 4 hp into 20 amps. I needed to have a 20 amp circuit installed. It ended up costing me over a grand (as I had additional wiring done at the same time - one might as well ).

    Regards from Perth

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    Quote Originally Posted by derekcohen View Post
    Hi Jeff



    One cost that most do not factor in with the Hammer N4400 is the power connection. It produces 4 hp into 20 amps. I needed to have a 20 amp circuit installed. It ended up costing me over a grand (as I had additional wiring done at the same time - one might as well ).

    Regards from Perth

    Derek

    do you have the single phase model? ... i would have thought a 15amp circuit should have been sufficient ... 4hp =3024w div by 240 volts gives 12.6 amps?


    isn't that how it would go or does it need more for the startup or am i just wrong?

    regards david

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    Hi David,

    Your V=IR is correct though felder say that you must have a 20 amp circuit as it will void the warranty if not. Read somewhere that it draws 19 amp so the motor will be a genuine 4hp.

    Thanks for your coments guys its much appreciated all I have got to do now is swallow deeply and pass over the deposit.

    jeff............

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    Quote Originally Posted by robbygard View Post
    do you have the single phase model? ... i would have thought a 15amp circuit should have been sufficient ... 4hp =3024w div by 240 volts gives 12.6 amps?


    isn't that how it would go or does it need more for the startup or am i just wrong?

    regards david
    David

    Mine is single phase. It was just as easy to put in a 20 amp circuit as a 15 amp circuit since I was going from scratch (rebuilding the workshop). I wanted to be able to use the full 4 hp. As it was I added 2 x 15 amp plugs as well as the 20 amp plus a couple of 10 amp plugs.

    Regards from Perth

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    Fantastic machine - I use mine every day (probably for a total of over an hour per day on an average day) for thick and thin hard and soft timbers. It does the job wonderfully.

    Henry Brothers provide great and prompt service with reasonable prices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by derekcohen View Post
    David

    Mine is single phase. It was just as easy to put in a 20 amp circuit as a 15 amp circuit since I was going from scratch (rebuilding the workshop). I wanted to be able to use the full 4 hp. As it was I added 2 x 15 amp plugs as well as the 20 amp plus a couple of 10 amp plugs.

    Regards from Perth

    Derek

    thanks derek ... i have been looking at this bandsaw as well and already have 15amp circuit but don't like the thought of having to get more work done if i get it

    regards david

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    I will be contacting Henry Bros re saw blades and get a selection to try, but one more question to the bandsawing community - do you make up your own bands ie silver solder/braze them etc either to repair them or mahe new ones from bulk blade stock?

    In an attempt to get a better understanding I have got Mark Duginske's Band Saw Handbook which seems to contain lots of good stuff.

    I am quite amazed that after 60+ years of buying tools and gadgets that I haven't had one before now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by robbygard View Post
    thanks derek ... i have been looking at this bandsaw as well and already have 15amp circuit but don't like the thought of having to get more work done if i get it

    regards david

    i spoke to the felder people and they said:
    "Theoretically you are right. The machine needs 15 amp but we always mention 20 Amp to be on the safe side. Machine plate reads 13.5 A, and we have clients using 15 amp. "
    13.5 amps would make it a little over 4HP by my reckoning ... incidentally, i noted in the specs that the plug on the end of the lead is only rated at 16 so i feel comfotable running off a 15amp circ myself ... next time i get some work done i will get a couple of 20amp circs put in anyway

    regards david

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    Seems that not all N4400's are equal. Mine only has a 1.8KW motor and I don't know why because I didn't buy it new.

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    That is an older model. They upgraded to 4 hp about 18 months ago.

    Regards from Perth

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    Quote Originally Posted by derekcohen View Post
    That is an older model. They upgraded to 4 hp about 18 months ago.

    Derek
    It's was built in 2007.

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    Last time I looked at my watch it said the time was 2009.

    Yours would have been just before the change over.

    Regards from Perth

    Derek
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