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    Default LS Barker 27BSC

    Hi Everyone,

    I have just bought an old Bandsaw and looking for any info on the model, I have seen 27BS, but this one is a BSC and I wondered what the "C" meant.

    Cheers

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    Did you get this in NSW?
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    Yes

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    This is a guess, Matty in Melbourne might know more as heís a nutter for Barker stuff.
    From the ad this bandsaw has a C & H (Charles and Huntington) mechanical variable speed motor fitted.
    Possibly as these were both Oz made products of the same era this was the C in the badge.
    I guess if it looks to be original not an Ďadd oní that may be the answer.
    I used these units on wood lathes successfully.
    On the Wadkin RS Iíd put it on the appropriate pulley for the diameter as rough with the motor unit on slow.
    As I roughed it into balance I could crank up the speed with my foot.
    On the bandsaw the motor unit will be behind the saw, well out of reach so not sure how easily it would be adjusted unless it has an extended crank or some other trick.
    Just a brain fart but who knows?
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    Further to the guff I just wrote, I did a quick search.
    ĎBarker and variable speedí brings up on this forum under Vintage and Antique Machinery from Matty a post.
    L S BARKER THICKNESSER.
    In this post a c1955 24Ē thicky has a C & H variable speed motor fitted to the feed.
    Knowing the size of these units it would probably have been an original set up to be as neat as it looks.
    Unfortunately Matty didnít put the nameplate up so donít know if it had a C.
    H.
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    Hi Clear Out, Thanks for both your replies, I don't know how the variable speed setup works, the ON/OFF switch for the machine his missing, so I was thinking the motor had a tap in the windings to allow it to go at different speeds, I have this on a pad (stroke) sander, but you mention mechanical so is there a gearbox and the word variable seems to imply infinity speed control, within the amps of the motor like a dimmer switch.

    Cheers Nigel

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    Default C & H variable speed motor units

    I have some dirty paper on these units.
    The drive unit is fixed and the motor moves across it to vary the speed.
    Some are direct drive and some are geared (offset output shaft).
    H.
    Interesting how your memory plays tricks on you. Itís Hunting not Huntington
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    Hi Clear Out, Great information and most helpful, thankyou very much for posting.

    Cheers Nigel

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    I've posted a pic of the wheel that changes the speed of the motor, so this could well be the "C" in the model number like Clear Out suggested, if anyone else as any type of Barker with a variable speed motor would you please post a pic of the name plate showing the model number would be interesting to see if there is a "C" at the end.Bandsaw Motor 2.jpg

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    Got the Bandsaw home thought I would share some pic's of how I got it off the trailer & into my shedBandsaw coming down trailer ramp.jpgBandsaw trying to protect top door from further damage.jpgBandsaw nearly fully off trailer.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by clear out View Post
    I have some dirty paper on these units.
    The drive unit is fixed and the motor moves across it to vary the speed.
    Some are direct drive and some are geared (offset output shaft).
    H.
    Interesting how your memory plays tricks on you. It’s Hunting not Huntington
    C&H Variable Speed Motor.jpgChain with gears.jpg
    Hi H, With the rain stopping other work I have started cleaning and putting the Bandsaw back together, the C & H speed controller is a variant on the 2 types you posted in that it seems to have a clutch plate, which goes to the first box in the pic and the to the next box which I took the lid off. In this second box the are some off set gears with a large chain. Both boxes require oil, do you know what would be the best oil to use. Cheers Nigel

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    Nigel,
    Sorry I donít know what oil to use.
    I had a look at the dirty paper but thereís nothing additional there from what I posted.
    Possibly worthwhile putting a query up over on the Metalworking site.
    Thereís a few clued up folk on there.
    H.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camelot View Post
    Don't know why pic's come out upside down or how to correct it
    Howzat!!

    LSB1.jpg

    LSB2.jpg

    LSB3.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camelot View Post
    Don't know why pic's come out upside down or how to correct it
    And the next lot.

    LSB4.jpg

    LSB5.jpg

    LSB6.jpg

    The problem is the software is written in the Northern hemisphere, and what with Australia being downunder...

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