Thread: Sawstop Bandsaw

Butchers use bandsaws, this is going to drive them crazy
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The poor bloke in the video trying to cut his sausage in half was wondering why he couldn't cut it.

Originally Posted by Groggy

Butchers use bandsaws, this is going to drive them crazy

I heard they're making a special model for butchers, it stops cutting when it touches anything that's not meat or bone.

Originally Posted by Groggy

Butchers use bandsaws, this is going to drive them crazy

That was laugh out loud funny.

Agree with you Waldo, surely this would be for people with severe blade phobias or perhaps medical conditions that may cause them to fall asleep while using the machinery etc. Not too useful forthe average woodworker.

Im still waiting for the Saw Stop chisel

Heard a true story 3 weeks ago about a bloke here in Melbourne who forked out the big bucks for a Saw Stop for the safety aspect. Two weeks after delivery he somehow he put two fingers into his jointer and had them ripped off.

Originally Posted by Waldo

Talking to the bloke doing the Sawstop demo at the Melb WWS and he mentioned that Sawstop are doing a bandsaw along the lines of the c/saw.

YouTube - SawStop Bandsaw Prototype

For the life of me I can't see a need for it, as I and others I was talking with at the time agree that it's one of the safer machines in the shed and you can get up real close if you want to without too much drama.

Yep, there's a danger in all things with sharp teeth. But I don't see a market - of course there might well be in circumstances where there is training in schools etc., but in the wider community?

I'm not starting this thread to bag Sawstop out but wondering what sort of market there might be and if any of you lot might consider a Sawstop b/saw?

I wouldn't consider a bandsaw with a saw stop mechanism, because I don't see the risk (in respect to the possibility of cut fingers) as worth the additional cost

but you may recall that some time ago there was a poster asking where they could purchase a blade guard for a bandsaw – the blade guard they were after was to go between the upper thrust / guide bearings and the table surface effectively preventing any but deliberate contact with the blade

based on the experiences of woodworkers I've worked with at Tech over the past two years, it's not uncommon for people in noisey multi-person workshops to open the wheel guard doors while the blade is still moving — especially bigger saws which have a lot of momentum — which justifies the use of electrical cut outs and electric brakes (cut the power and the motor becomes a generator till the blade stops)

also all the B/Ss at Tech are fitted with a "clear" perspex guard over the upper bearing assembly. There's a narrow U-slot cut in the front of the guard so you can "see" the blade. In my opinion a B/S with this sort of guard is more dangerous than one without as you have to contort your body to see how close to the line you are cutting. It's been fitted at the insistance of NSW Workcover following one or more "accidents"

as a carpenter and woodworker i would buy this is in a heartbeat.
the reason i dont rush out to buy it asap as i am sure the reason most people wont, is because of cost.
but in the ideal world where my bank account had unlimited funds, just like the government, then of course i would buy this product.
i have also worked in worskhops with 50 - 60 other carpenters running about. in high traffic areas it is so simple to lose your concentration for a second or two.
this product and its brother the tablesaw will be commonplace in the future. but for now, only the people with unlimited funds, will be buying. and obviously government for schools.

just my 2 cents worth.
regards, justin.

I can see work safety being the reason employers and education going for it on the grounds they took all possible measures to ensure a safe work environment. For us home woodies we will just have to take care until we can afford it.

I know for a fact schools in Victoria arnt interested as its to expensive, they do have a strict budget (not to say some haven’t purchased them) Prisons would love them, but how many prisons are their, that leaves professional woodworkers. What I would like to know is, how many cabinet shops use 10 (or 12) inch cabinet saws? The vast majority use Sliders. So until there is a saw stop slider, it will remain a minor player in the market place

you are right lignum.
i also reckon once sawstop introduce a sliding panel saw, that is when they will really be taken seriously by the woodworking industry.
most cabinet makers and kitchen manufacturers would scoff at buying the available product now.
hopefully this will bring down the overall prices and we all can enjoy the unique safety features of sawstops products.

regards, justin.

Recently I have been looking for a way to make the bandsaws on our plant floor safer. We've had a few people being careless lately and they've cut their fingers.

As soon as it happens we have to lock down the bandsaw, write out reports, and do all that fun stuff. The employer must figure out a way to make this "never happen again" which seems like an impossible task. It's a bandsaw...treat it like a bandsaw and you shouldn't have a problem right?

But sometimes that's not an option. We've recently contacted SawStop and they still haven't come out with the flesh sensor which is disappointing. I'm surprised...this thread started years ago!

We work mainly with plastic but we do have a woodworking shop that we also need to fit with some safety device. We cut up plastic scrap and rough cut thermoformed parts.

Does anybody know of any other device that can potentially make a bandsaw: finger cutting free?

A 12 hour shift for a younger worker can be draining...after 10 hours in a hot environment especially. If they would give a little bit more respect and care we wouldn't have to worry about this but...

One idea I thought of was putting a monitor in front of the machine scrolling through different bandsaw accidents

Any ideas?

Originally Posted by AcryNom

A 12 hour shift for a younger worker can be draining...after 10 hours in a hot environment especially. If they would give a little bit more respect and care we wouldn't have to worry about this but...

Any ideas?

12 hours shift in a hot environment and you wonder that young workers get tired and then because they are tired a little careless. No wonder that they get careless.

Maybe as an employer you should first look at what you are making your employees do rather then blaming the workers.

Maybe more normal (shorter and with more breaks) shifts would solve your problem.

Peter.

Originally Posted by Lignum

Heard a true story 3 weeks ago about a bloke here in Melbourne who forked out the big bucks for a Saw Stop for the safety aspect. Two weeks after delivery he somehow he put two fingers into his jointer and had them ripped off.

Whilst this is obviously an unfortunate story I fail to see the connection with the Saw Stop and its technology. I am sure that some will argue that he shouldn't have bothered with the Saw Stop technology on his saw as his jointer was still a dangerous bit of machinery, but that is like saying I will not drive in a car with airbags because I wear a helmet when riding my bike.