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28th May 2012, 08:23 PM #61
Ha, Yeah. Still, I got a bit done. The rails and crossmembers are all sanded down to 300, ready for ebonising.
When I checked tracking at H&F earlier, I saw there was a new order pending - a bandsaw table, with instructions to check it before sending. That's disappeared now. I hope that means it's on the way. I'm still waiting on the dust extractor, too, due any time now.
Once this is all sorted out, I can get onto sorting out a planer/thicknesser. If this all turns out well, I'll still buy the H&F one that I have my eye on: - https://www.machineryhouse.com.au/W850 , otherwise the Carbatec one.... Steve
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28th May 2012, 10:39 PM #62
Steve,
I hope you get this combo machine. I wanted to get the one that Grizzly sells but just couldn't ring up enough cash at one time. I ended up buying a planer first and then a jointer. I love both machines except that my jointer is only 6". I do have a trick for jointing up to a 9" board with some jigs I made but would be nice to have the 10" wide.
Bret
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28th May 2012, 10:53 PM #63
It's not bad for the price and the reviews I've read looked good. Can thickness up to 8 1/2" x 10" material, and plane 10". Plenty good enough for me. My spindle sander is a Scheppach, too, and it's a little beauty. That reminds me, I promised to write a review. Must try to fit that in over the next few days.
I do have a trick for jointing up to a 9" board with some jigs I made but would be nice to have the 10" wide.
Bret... Steve
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29th May 2012, 08:13 AM #64
Please educate me.
I cannot understand why one would buy a combination machine.
If one breaks down both are useless.
The planing part has no infeed and outfeed tables or very short ones.
Unless it is for lack of floor space I just cannot see the point.
Cheers
WolffieEvery day is better than yesterday
Cheers
SAISAY
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29th May 2012, 09:45 AM #65
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29th May 2012, 11:40 AM #66
The new table top arrived half an hour ago. Pleasant surprise, I didn't expect it before tomorrow.
The good: - Unwrapped it - looks much nicer than the original. The original even had a casting fault on top. This one also has a much smoother surface finish. The other one gripped the timber like 40 grit.
The bad: - This one is bowed too, in the same place! Only half as bad, it drops off by 2.5-3 mm by the RHS edge. So much for the techs checking it before it was sent. Now I have two bad ones, no good ones.
What to do next? Ask for another? Live with it?
This is very disappointing. I wanted a decent bandsaw, not one with a bunch of faults that I have to live with right from the beginning.
I'll have to get one of the tables machined locally, I guess, for $240. No choice now.
Dunno what to do about H&F. Are they really the best the industry has to offer?
I feel like getting rid of this thing and buying a better bandsaw elsewhere.
My dust extractor still hasn't arrived from H&F either, after a week.... Steve
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29th May 2012, 11:49 AM #67GOLD MEMBER
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Before you do anything else, I would call Dean up again and talk to him. Give them a chance to make it right before you do anything else.
The other day I described to my daughter how to find something in the garage by saying "It's right near my big saw". A few minutes later she came back to ask: "Do you mean the black one, the green one, or the blue one?".
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29th May 2012, 11:53 AM #68
Yes, you're right. Already done, seconds ago. Dean promises to make it good, even if I do get it machined locally and they pay. He said he's gone to talk to someone who gets paid more than him, to see what they can do for me. (Upgrade to BP-355 maybe?)
This isn't merely a 'put 5hit on H&F' thread - if they do the right thing I want everyone to know that too.
Edit: I forgot to add, Dean is also going to see what's going on with the dust extractor and give it a hurry-up.... Steve
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29th May 2012, 11:57 AM #69GOLD MEMBER
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I get the feeling from everything you have posted that H&F will make this good for you in some way. Just hope for your sake that it is sooner rather than later.
The other day I described to my daughter how to find something in the garage by saying "It's right near my big saw". A few minutes later she came back to ask: "Do you mean the black one, the green one, or the blue one?".
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29th May 2012, 12:35 PM #70... Steve
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29th May 2012, 01:02 PM #71
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29th May 2012, 01:13 PM #72
'Dragged' was perhaps too strong a word. It only weighs 20kg, (45 lb). I carried it in.
As long as they don't keep me waiting too long, or I will be dragging the bandsaw in later as well. Gotta put the chipboard top back on and cut some more bits for the Roadster. (What lounge room?)... Steve
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29th May 2012, 02:57 PM #73
Steve thats a bummer situ but not to say it could have been in transit damage. No not making excuses for H&F just know what can happen.
Steve like the previous top does the bow appear to be centralised, as in where the split for the blade is located.
Why do you see or have been told it needs machining? Why not maybe heat treatment?
Yes cast is delicate but done right it maybe the solution.
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29th May 2012, 03:18 PM #74
The bow is exactly where the last one was - along the split line, with a relatively flat table either side. Working with real narrow timber right along the split line is impossible without it rocking left to right a fair bit, messing up the angles. I don't want to use the chipboard top for everything, either, because of the height loss and slight extra blade movement due to the unsupported bit that goes through the chipboard. (That bit is not so important.)
Machining was the first thing that came to mind, for both Dean and myself and probably the only option here in Nowra. The local guy doesn't even have a milling machine large enough and will use a vertical bore if he does it.
I straightened a bowed compound mitre saw fence a few weeks ago, only cast aluminium, but still delicate, so I know it's possible.
I DIY pressed it back just past straight, with a travel limit to help stop it breaking, left it for a couple of hours from memory, then released it and took out the last tiny bit on W&D paper glued to a sheet of perspex, clamped to a flat (kitchen) table.
Yes cast is delicate but done right it maybe the solution
Edit: I'm currently routing slots either side of the blade slot for the mitre guide, then I'll look at attaching the fence extrusion across the end.... Steve
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29th May 2012, 03:30 PM #75
Table Number 3
Dean just asked if I want this one: -
Attachment 210132
I said "Yes, please."
Not perfect, with a little dip to the left of the blade, but a damn sight better than the other two.
It looks more than usable for my purposes.
It's on it's way, from Melbourne this time.
Third time lucky.....
Edit: Dean just verified that it's already on it's way, began arrangements to retrieve the other two and back-ordered some free 1/4" blades for me, to match the one I bought last week. They're not in stock at the moment, hence the back-order.
The dust collector left yesterday, too, so will probably arrive tomorrow.
Things are looking sunnier.... Steve
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