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13th February 2014, 10:20 AM #1New Member
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Cedrus Deodara (Deodar Cedar)
Hello all,
New to the forum but thought i would post this here in the interests of not wasting a tree that i need to have lopped.
Just to be clear i have no experience in timber sales apart from the limited research i have done on this particular species of tree.
The purpose of this thread is to send the timber from this tree off to someone who could make use of it. I would hate to see the loppers come and just chip it up for no reason.
The species is called Cedrus Deodara (Deodar Cedar) as per my council building approval report. It comes from the Himalayan Mountains area where it is in great demand over there.
Here is some information below as well as some photos of the tree. The limbs don’t start until approximately 5m up the trunk and it is over 20m tall (Very straight)
It is a moderate hardwood not a soft wood as I originally thought and as per the attached info I found in the link below here are some of its supposed uses – “It is used in house building, beams, floorboards, door and window frames, furniture and general carpentry.
It also produces quality plywood”.
I have put a starting price of $100 here however i am more keen to know my options.
I am interested in buyers who can slab this tree into timber for their (or someone elses) use. If you believe the timber from this tree has value to be sold to a potential buyer than this is the tree for you.
Options around lopping and cutting can be discussed as per your suggestions.
Feel free to reply with anything to this thread.
Regards,
AJ
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13th February 2014, 03:26 PM #2GOLD MEMBER
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A more defined location rather than NSW Australia might help prospective buyers.
Experienced in removing the tree from the furniture
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13th February 2014, 05:26 PM #3.
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I have milled a couple of these trees and they sure smell nice and have a lovely grain.
A couple of comments.
Although they are classed as a hardwood they are quite soft so I would not classify them as a moderate hardwood but a soft hardwood especially in comparison to Aussie hardwoods.
In fact when I milled it, it seemed about as regular pine
In terms of actual hardness numbers they have a dry Janka Hardness of around 3.7 kN, Pinus Radiata has a hardness of 3.1 kN, Nyatoh which has a hardness of 4.7, Jarrah which is around 8.5 kN and spotted gum which is around 11 kN. Its like pine to work and straight grained sections are lovely to work with.
It is used for construction because it is insect and rot resistant and in places where there is often no other timbers available. However it is only about as strong as pine so structurally it should be treated like pine.
One of the best uses for it is the internals of cupboards and drawers used for clothing as it keeps bugs away really well.
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13th February 2014, 06:08 PM #4New Member
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location of tree
Hello all.
Sorry the tree is located at Blaxland in the Blue Mountain's.
Cheers
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13th February 2014, 11:39 PM #5SENIOR MEMBER
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Hi AJ,
I don't want to rain on your parade (as I'd be interested if the tree was in Western Australia) but you should read this:
http://www.finewoodworking.com/item/...orking-eletter
There is a cedar around the corner from me in the front yard of a house surrounded by sub-division and infill housing. I'm just waiting for the "for sale" sign that will indicate the house is to be demolished, so I can express my interest in the tree.
Paul
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14th February 2014, 05:33 AM #6
Im interested in a block or two but cant do the whole tree, sorry
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14th February 2014, 01:42 PM #7New Member
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Hello Sebastiaan,
Ive got a lopper who will cut it and you can take what you want once hes cut it if you really want.
The lopper has quoted me full price which includes the removal of all trees and Debris so let me know what you need?
Will you be milling the said log yourself?
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14th February 2014, 04:30 PM #8GOLD MEMBER
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It is a conifer (Pine family) so technically a softwood (Botany info)
Just for your information, not a spoiler (as it could in fact help you), the genus Cedrus is in the Pinaceae, the pine-tree family, a conifer (bearing cones). All pines are by definition softwoods, so this is not a hardwood. Hardwoods are technically from flowering plants. The actual hardness or softness of the timber does not determine whether it is classed as a hardwood or softwood as it is historically founded from a time when the known flowering plant timbers (e.g. English oak) were all much harder than the known conifers (e.g. Baltic Pine).
Cedrus contains quite a lot of pine sap, which gives it its smell and helps with repelling insects.
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14th February 2014, 07:45 PM #9
Whatever sort of wood it is its pretty good to work. But wrong state for me.
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14th February 2014, 11:03 PM #10
Nice looking tree
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17th February 2014, 01:22 PM #11
I wont be milling it but splitting it with a splitter. The idea is to produce wedges which can later be used for stringed instruments. If the miller can leave a couple of clear blocks in the 400-500 mm length that would be fantastic. The Blue Mountains wood turners may also be interested. Their clubhouse is in Mt Riv.
I'll pm you a phone number
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20th February 2014, 10:38 PM #12Senior Member
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Don't forget Sebastian if you are building goosesticks the sides need to be round 830- 850mm.
Steve
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