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4th December 2013, 12:01 AM #16
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4th December 2013, 01:14 AM #17Member
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4th December 2013, 02:19 AM #18
Hi Pedder,
Is that a holding jig that you have clamped in the vise so as to not disturb the end of the back that fits into the mortise while you shape the sides of the back?
Have you tried scraping the brass in addition to filing it? A scraper can remove a lot of metal quite fast.
Thanks,
Marv
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4th December 2013, 03:01 AM #19Member
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Hi Marv, exactly, I couldn't describe it better
Yes I've tried, but it doesn't leave a better finish than the file. It is not the main problem to remove a lot of brass, but to do it as exactly as possible and very clean from the first file stroke. Filing is finished after 15 minutes. After that it is sanding. And sanding and a little more sanding from G 120- G 3000 (don't skip a grain), than a short period of polishing (three minutes) and turning to the other side. You really have to like sanding to do that. Good music and a Coffee helps, too.
Cheers PEdder
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4th December 2013, 04:44 AM #20
Hi Peter,
it's a commercial product that is rather common in Germany. The brand is Wabeco. It's that common because of it's versatility. Many tasks of woodworking will be done rather good by this drill press. For metalwork I wouldn't recommend it because it isn't that sturdy one want's to have while working metal.
As I know since a few days, there's at least one of those down under. It was pimped in a very special way. It's done that good and impressive that I want to copy some of those awesome ideas.
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f11/wo...omised-158214/
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Klaus
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4th December 2013, 12:36 PM #21SENIOR MEMBER
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Thanks Klaus, I have been in Brett's shed and seen the drill stand. Mea culpa, I did not examine the setup at all! A quick google, and I see this is not a cheap option, even in Germany. Now I wonder if I can get a right angle saw arbor/chuck for my bench top drill press (my only machine tool)? I fear that hand sawing is it for me.
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Peter
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4th December 2013, 05:59 PM #22
Peter,
the hand sawing of the blade slot is tricky but doable. To me it works quite good if I do at first an initial cut around the frontend of the handle with the depth of about 5 or 6 mm with a fine bladed dovetail saw. It's quite the same cut that I do with the drill stand. The following deepening of the cut with a dovetail saw is not that difficult after that.
Cheers
Klaus
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5th December 2013, 06:52 AM #23Member
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Thanks for posting Klaus. Interesting little jig you have there. I do the same thing with my small mill, but horizontally. Your handles will be a classic someday.
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5th December 2013, 09:01 AM #24
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5th December 2013, 09:11 AM #25
Hi Stewie,
excuse me please that I nearly have overseen this post. The haunched mortise will do great service for a flush mounted spine. If the spine is mounted proud of the cheeks it doesn't need to have a haunched mortise IMHO. In any case I'm excited to see your next saw however!
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Klaus
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5th December 2013, 09:52 AM #26Deceased
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Hi Klaus. A lot of my recent backsaws I have reduced the height of my brass hardbacks from 19mm down to 13mm. This was done in an effort to reduce the overall weight of the saw in front of the handle. IMO its been a most successful experiment. But it seemed the right timing for me to try something new such as it keeps the mind fresh. Trialing a mortice fit such as you and Pedder use with your backsaws seemed most interesting to give a go. To achieve this I am keeping with the 19mm. Using the term Haunched Mortise is quite quite an accurate description from a joinery perspective as sides of the tenon remains flush, not as you would normally see with the rails on a traditional panel door frame. But that's okay. I am also keeping the top line of the spine slightly proud to the top of the mortise, not flush as you prefer. Will see how it all pans out.
Stewie;
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