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27th November 2013, 01:30 AM #1
Saw and Driver
Hi Handtoolers,
often Pedder and I discussed how to manage it to offer a split nut driver matching to the saw handle. We did a few attempts and thought that a driver handle has to be thicker as the saw handle is. Frequently we only have handle wood not thicker than 1" so we put the idea of the matching driver in the "later project drawer".
Then, 2 years later or so, I met another woodworker. He was a complete woodturning newbie but he showed very soon, that he was talented when I gave him my lathe to play a little bit with. I asked him to look for a design of a splitnut driver with a handle not thicker than 1". What he came up with convinced me completely. Wolfgang, that's the guy, came up with the driver design you will see on the following pics.
The saw is a 10" Fine Joinery Saw with Ebony handle and MOP inlay. Pedder finished the saw this weekend and I think he did it great.
Ebony+mop+fjs+1+snd.jpg Ebony+mop+fjs+4+snd.jpg Ebony+mop+fjs+5+snd.jpg
Thanks for looking
Klaus
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27th November 2013, 02:02 PM #2GOLD MEMBER
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Klaus, welcome to the forum, very professional indeed.
Is it possible to see the business end of the tool along with the other side of the saw, so we can see the nuts as well?
Are you a business, or a hobby business?
If you are, then I will be in Tübingen and maybe Reutlingen next year, I may be able to pick up something from you ......................
Mick.
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Welcome to the forum Klaus. Another wonderful backsaw. Since your now a member of this forum can we now claim you as part Aussie.
Stewie;
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27th November 2013, 06:24 PM #4
Thanks a lot, Mick!
There's only one more pic I can show. It shows the other side of the saw but it doesn't show the business end of the driver. Since the saw and the driver are shipped already, I'm not able to take another pic.
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The split nuts you can see do look unusual. We use stainless screws and nuts on our saws. Those nuts are common ones according to the German specifications (DIN).
Pedder and I run Two Lawyers Tools as a (very little) side business just for fun. Due to some heavy wood allergies, I was forced to make a break of more than one year from the saw making. I'm the handle maker while Pedder makes the blades and the spines. Now the issues I had are better to control, so the saw making can be continued. But only a small number of saws per year. That's what Pedder and I wanted since we started the adventure in 2009.
You will visit Tübingen?!!! Please tell me when that will be. I'd be happy to meet you. Tübingen is just about 40 km apart from my home, it's just an hour by car. I lived about 4 years in Tübingen. There's a big university where I studied as well.
Cheers
Klaus
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27th November 2013, 06:31 PM #5
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27th November 2013, 08:47 PM #6
Hi kalus
Very impressive saw.
I love the way u fitted the back to the handle.
And I love the use of stainless steel saw bolts
Could u tell us how u put your logo on the blade
Is it acid etch?
Also have you looked at the general woodwork section?
At the back saw work shop lead
Very nice saw.
Matt
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27th November 2013, 09:18 PM #7
Thank you, Matt.
The first 2 years or so, we used acid etches on the blades. We haven't been too happy with those, since they didn't accept a further polishing of the blade. Sometimes you like to repolish the blade while saw making though. Now we use laser etches that will be done by a company professionally. We're very happy with it.
Thanks for the hint. Yet I'm not familiar with this forum but looking forward to lurking a little bit.
Cheers
Klaus
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27th November 2013, 10:40 PM #8
Hi Klaus
Yes, welcome to the forum, it should be a wealth of information to you and us.
I had heard of you guys but not seen your tools. They look spectacular, beautiful, please show us more.
And maybe a hint at the cost if we were to order one of these beautiful tools
I hope you enjoy your time here.
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27th November 2013, 11:40 PM #9
Thanks a lot, Claw.
I don't know if I'm allowed to set here a link to the TLT-Blog. I just try it. If that doesn't matches the forum rules, please remove it, dear Mod.
Two Lawyers Toolworks
On our Blog you will find some more information about Pedder, me and our saw making adventure.
Since all of our saws are configurated individually as they are bespoke to the users hand, there are different prices as well. A dovetail saw starts at 170 EUR however.
Cheers
Klaus
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28th November 2013, 12:00 AM #10
Klaus,
Congrats on another great saw!!
Those of you who were at the saw making workshop and tried some of the sample saws brought in. Ray's Ebony handled saw was made by TLT and looks very much like the one above minus the mother of pearl inlay. It is also the saw that inspired the whole endeavour. You may also be interested to know these guys hand file that brass back to shape.
Klaus is the split nut driver shown the same head as your others??
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The new handle design reminds me of Blue Spruce Chisels which are a lovely shape.…..Live a Quiet Life & Work with your Hands
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28th November 2013, 01:08 AM #11
Thank you very much, DSEL.
You're right, the blade of the new designed driver is exactly the same as it has been before on the old drivers. Should have had the idea myself to show the business end this way. I guess, that Wolfgang was inspired by the Blue Spruce chisel handle, when he designed the driver handle.
Cheers
Klaus
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28th November 2013, 03:16 AM #12Member
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Beautiful work, Klaus. Both the old and new drivers look great. And of course, the saw is just gorgeous.
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28th November 2013, 07:02 AM #13
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28th November 2013, 07:37 AM #14
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28th November 2013, 07:53 AM #15
Um, wot's this, Dale? (the post currently adjacent to this one.)
Klaus, welcome to the Forum - but be warned, we'll be extracting information from you like dentists pulling teeth!
I like your driver handles - the diameter of the handle isn't all that critical, imo, since you should not need to tighten the nuts to a high torque, just enough to keep the saw firm. My drivers aren't quite as elegant as yours, just a flat blade with a tang. I decided on a 'door knob' style for the handle, partly because I have plenty of scraps of pretty wood, so I can show-off more of it. We are lucky to have some spectacular woods down here, that are not quite as precious as Ebony, so we can afford to be wasteful! I made these for our recent saw-making workshop, the outer two are Rosewood and Olive, which of course are exotic to Australia, while the inner two are 'She-oak' (Allocasaurina torulosa) and Blaackwood (Acacia melanoxylon) respectively.
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Your handles are so precisely fitted, they look as though you don't need bolts! If you have time, could you please show us how you go about fitting your blades & that elliptical spine?
Cheers,IW
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