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    Quote Originally Posted by derekcohen View Post
    Hi Stewie

    What type of saw is this - from the drawing it looks like a tenon, rather than a dovetail. 38 degrees of hang seems a little high for a tenon, so I assume it is a dovetail saw .... but also perhaps a little low for the latter? I guess it also depends on the height from which one saws?

    Can you say something about the hang angles you use? Actually, others (Rob, Ian) may chime in with their preferences as well.

    Regards from Perth

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    Hi Derek,

    I arrange the parts of my saws such that the index finger of the hand holding the saw, when held straight, points at the toe of the saw plate on shorter backsaws (<10"). On longer backsaws I set the handles such that the index finger points progressively ahead of the toe.

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    Hi Derek. The topic of hang angles could result in a long and in depth discussion by all those wishing to contribute. Can I suggest you start up a separate thread.

    regards Stewie;

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob streeper View Post
    Hi Derek,

    I arrange the parts of my saws such that the index finger of the hand holding the saw, when held straight, points at the toe of the saw plate on shorter backsaws (<10"). On longer backsaws I set the handles such that the index finger points progressively ahead of the toe.

    Cheers,
    Rob
    Thanks Rob

    An example of something more specific are the articles by Isaac Smith (Blackburn Tools). He descrives how he sets the hang angle to the cant of the saw plate ..

    http://www.blackburntools.com/blog/i...ssion-of-hang/

    On my recent mitre saw (in a mitre box), with a 16" long plate, the hang angle was 23 degrees. This encourages more of horizontal push, which is wanted in a mitre box, where downforce is unnecessary. 23 degrees is also recognised by some, such as Isaac, for tenon saws generally ... regardless of length?



    http://www.blackburntools.com/blog/c...d-saw-handles/

    Any thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by planemaker View Post
    Hi Derek. The topic of hang angles could result in a long and in depth discussion by all those wishing to contribute. Can I suggest you start up a separate thread.

    regards Stewie;
    Stewie, you opened the topic ...



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    Thanks Rob. Appreciate you starting a separate thread on the topic of "hang angles".

    regards Stewie;

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    Quote Originally Posted by planemaker View Post
    I have drawn up a closed version of the Moses Eadon Open Handle. I will be able to make a better judgement call on its final shape after I view it in 3 dimensional handle form.

    Stewie;

    Hi Rob. After returning from a week away I managed to make a start on the new closed handle design. As you can see, I made a change to the position of the 3rd saw bolt.

    As you can see, by keeping the curvature of the birds mouth quite shallow, the area of long grain running through the neck of the handle is not overly impacted.

    The handle wood is Pink Myrtle.

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    Nice handle design Stewie. I was thinking yesterday while working on my latest saw that it would be possible to increase the strength of the neck area of the handle by using crotch wood with the grain looping up and over the neck and down the grip, but try finding appropriate pieces.
    Rob
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    Thanks Rob. The new design is starting to look like a user.

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    I will start a separate thread for this new closed handle backsaw.

    Stewie;

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