Thread: Veener saw and abused tools
13th April 2020, 09:40 PM #16
At first glance I thought that the steel rod used for the handle looked a little on the skinny side but I realise now you intend incorporating an auxiliary handle. I like the way youíve based it on a G-clamp so it can be used on either side; and even reversed to cater for the left handedNothing succeeds like a budgie without a beak.
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13th April 2020, 09:46 PM #17
13th April 2020, 09:49 PM #18
15th April 2020, 10:21 PM #19
I had thought the veneer saw had a tooth pitch of 1mm, checked mine and it has 7 points in 10mm. The teeth are vertical, that is no pitch. This is because the saw works on both the forward and back stroke. To "sharpen" the teeth, file a flat angle on one side only, for the width of the teeth, so that each tooth is actually a point.
According to the dictates of my heritage, (scottish), I am frugal, (tight arrrs). Those old files I soak in vinegar for about 24 36 hours depending how worn they are. They come out sharper that a new file, but the teeth are not as robust. I use the plastic tubes that turning tools come in for the job. At least you can get another turn out of the files.
Keep the story going it is good for a laugh.
JimSometimes in the daily challenges that life gives us, we miss what is really important...
16th April 2020, 08:31 PM #20
Tho I thought with Scottís it was short arms deep pockets, or was that the Irish?
Unfortunately or fortunately, I was called into work for a week.
So the unfortunate bit,is no work on the saw this week,but come the weekend I have every intention of getting those little teeth cut out in,
Tho Iím still figuring out what shape to file them,
Tho it seems 60 degree points are common.
But also found out on the net my saw is based on a English style of saw an the French have there own style of saw!
16th April 2020, 09:57 PM #21
22nd April 2020, 10:06 PM #22
So late this afternoon the skyís in Old Melbourne town weíre looking particularly attractive, the kind of day that would suit a tall Gin and deck chair in the backyard.
So I decided I would spend sometime in Neilís Old man cave out of the sun,(heís 90 in a few months).
Putting some teeth on the veener saw,
But before I had got to this,I have been frantically emailing a Mr bushmillar with heated and often confusing debates regarding ďwhat the bloody teeth shape are they anyway conversations.
So after all the smoke and dust had settled,the hard drives had cooled down, we both had come to same conclusion.
We havenít got a flaming clue what to do.
So I did what any red blooded male would do, I cried,
Well actually I didnít.
I just decided too do this instead.
ďSo the summary would be zero degs slope, zero set, zero fleam and 45 degs to 30 degs rake towards the handle.Ē
This was the conclusion Paul and I came to.
Or in simplicity simple terms some point triangles.
That resulted in this marvellous creation of this, potentially the worlds worst ever saw tooth thingy.
But all is not lost, Iím sure if I do actually spend an afternoon thinking about life, the universe, and rake angles tomorrow afternoon in the rain.
I have it all figured out if I drink that Gin.
I also will be spending another round with a saw file straightening the teeth out.
Now unfortunately I must confess the teeth were shaped(butchered in too place) with a brand new saw file(NOT an NOS (Neil old stock lol)
Also even tho through out this epic build, Iíve been claiming you donít need this or that or them.
I really miss good lighting and my head band magnifying thingy with its little torch light thingy.
They make a huge difference
I MISS MY CREATIVE ZONE !!
There will be more to come in this epic journey.
24th May 2020, 08:10 PM #23
Veener saw and abused tools
Well after being away from the creative zone for a few months?
Due to dealing with the New world order.
It was a fantastic feeling walking into our own home on Friday morning despite the fridge having a small temper spat an letting some good food Rot because the power was off for a few days [emoji3064][emoji3064].
So ,after cleaning up the fridge because I really didnít have the guts to ask Sal if she minded doing that while I went and played.
So Saturday morning I was back in heaven even if Iím an atheist.
So ,first things first, I gave the teeth another couple of rounds with a 150 mm (6 inch [emoji17])saw file.
That got most of my crappy stuck in Melbourne teeth sorted out.
This was then followed up by creating a bevel of approximately 23.67 degrees, or what my hands thought looked liked 23.67 degrees,
This was accomplished using some new to me USSR Mill Files Iím in the mood for the new world order , I hope George is happy , with me following the Party lines.
Next, I needed to attach the saw plate to the frame,this unfortunately involved tool shopping,and travailing which I hate doing on the weekends,the travailing bit.
So ,off I went to the tool shop for a M4 .75 bottoming tap , but I sort of figured while I was there I may as well get a M4 starting tap an the innermetint tap too plus bugger it ,I take an M4 .75 Die as well.
Luckily I have some nice tap handles or the budget would have really have been smoked.
I mean the set is better than just a bottoming tap , right.
So ,once back in the creative zone and with some suitable music blasting away.
Two little holes at 3.2 mm were drilled into the frame ready to be tapped out.
3.2 being only .1 smaller than the recommended tapping drill hole.
These were then tapped using the bottoming tap only as there only 3mm ish deep,hence I didnít start with the starting tap.
Next ,the saw plate was marked out ,and it to had two holes drilled using my solid carbite
Spade bit a must have in my opinion for drilling saw plate.
Finally ,after all that ,two M4 screws were cut down to about 4 mm in length.
And the parts became one, coool
So ,after starting with nothing in the new world order trial period.
The Coronavirus veneer communist party saw is done.CVCP
O Ye nearly forgot, yep it even cuts quite nicely I must say,even if it has questionable origins.
Ps I really hate tho screws too, I think they will go [emoji3064]
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