Thread: A bit of reading for the sharp of mind

I learned that the danger signs are a Seller who ..

1. offers goods "as is" and will not consider returns (usually in the small print).

2. will only give Feedback after receiving it from the buyer.

Regards from Perth

Derek

Originally Posted by derekcohen

I learned that the danger signs are a Seller who ..

1. offers goods "as is" and will not consider returns (usually in the small print).

2. will only give Feedback after receiving it from the buyer.

Regards from Perth

Derek

Derek

I have read this thread (and the others that you started us off with) with increasing despair.

I agree that 'as is' is a warning sign. But it is not an unreasonable position for a seller of used goods to take. My problem is not with your seller doing that, but with him out and out lying about the condition of the stones when you put the question to him directly. You can't hide behind 'as is' when you have said that they are in perfect condition!!!!

The only bad experiences I have had on eBay are with the blokes who don't give feedback asa seller until you do as a buyer. I now make it clear that my feedback will only be given when seller has put on feedback and the goods have arrived.

We live and learn

Cheers

Jeremy

I'm sorry but "as is" is fine if it's accurately described. To his "gentlemanly mates on the Japan tools forum, the description was:

It is not usable because it has bowed about 1mm from one end to the other. This is from drying out business face down in the factory case as directed per instructions of use. It happens every time I put it away after use and has gotten progressively worse the thinner it has gotten.

On Ebay, that bit was left out of the ad. Had that been the description in the ebay ad, no-one could have taken issue.

Now I'm off to watch one of three football matches that I watch each year!

Cheers,

P

Good on you Derek,

What a weasle, I admire your "principals" for continuing to take the issue to him.
He got what he deserved for fraudulent trading on ebay.


Felixe.

And if he had only just written this little line

"that it needed flattening every time you looked at it"

then there would have been no problem - I think that was about the final comment

Goodnight all - gee \i wonder who wond the footy

Derek, you are in the right here and he is in the wrong, very clearly. Unfortunately in my experience, pointing out the dishonesty of an unprincipled person never results in them admitting fault - but that is not a reason not to point it out! I admire you for sticking to your guns and being so polite about it, but I counsel you to leave karma to deal with this lowlife and forget about the unfortunate transaction.

A point in favour of eBay - I've bought and sold stuff on there for a number of years now. I'm not a big buyer or seller by any means, but I've never had such a clearly bad experience. I've had some where I might have described the item a little differently than the seller, but not enough to complain about. That is, until my most recent purchase, where I bought an item that was described as being in perfect unrestored condition. When it arrived, I found that it had been restored and even repaired (poorly). Upon complaining to the seller, I was offered a complete refund of the item price and the cost of shipping both ways - which in my opinion was the honourable, honest thing to do. When I leave feedback for this seller I will commend their integrity and recommend them highly, because of this return policy - yes they will be out of pocket on this one transaction, but I would happily purchase items from the same seller again without hesitation. I guess I've just been lucky so far.

I wish you more luck in future Derek.