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    There are a number of ways that this could go, not all of them mutually exclusive. It is possible that Australian importers have overestimated their clout compared with large entities such as Amazon. Restriction of trade might be seen as unlawful in some jurisdictions. As suggested before there already are ways to circumvent attempts to restrict Australians buying online. It is also possible that other entities will see an opening and fill the gaps - especially with products made in China.
    Another point is that consumers may become off at such machinations and boycott companies doing it.
    However, the point of this thread was not to destroy local businesses but, as Charleville said, to alert them to what is seen by many as unsatisfactory service. The answer is in their hands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentC View Post
    It is already happening in some sectors:


    My shopaholic wife would laugh at that because of what she experiences in the bricks and mortar retailers now.

    Admittedly, as a lady in her sixties, she is not brand shopping but just looking for quality garments. However, her experiences are that most clothing retailers are discounting so heavily just to survive these days that every week, she comes home with some purchase that she cannot believe how cheap it is.

    What is happening is that a garment will show a list price with a sticker on it with a huge discount. What blows her away time after time is that when she takes her garments through the checkouts, another unbelievable discount is then applied. So much so that this week, she reckoned that the nine buttons on the jumper that she bought would cost her more to buy at, say, Spotlight, than the whole garment. It was a very nice jumper also.


    Maybe they can play hardball with brand name garments but those too will be dragged down in price because consumers will not cop too big a price difference just for a name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbur View Post
    the point of this thread was not to destroy local businesses but, as Charleville said, to alert them to what is seen by many as unsatisfactory service. The answer is in their hands.


    Exactly! They have to abandon linear thinking such as by employing protectionist policies. If Amazon has a base in Australia, then it might have some fair claims under trade practice legislation to negate restrictive trade practices by Aussie retailers.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Charleville View Post
    You don't reckon that Amazon's leverage with Kreg and others is going to be bigger than any Aussie retailer, especially once they establish a beach-head here with a warehouse? ........
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    I reckon that you fear Aussie retailer protectionism too much, Les.
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    This has already happened with Incra. A few months back, most Incra products were available for direct shipping to OZ. Now only a few items are available and I reckon soon this will also be stopped.

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    Clothing is a somewhat special case because of the seasonal nature of the styles. My wife works in a golf pro shop and last season's gear can hardly be given away. The mark up is something like 300-400% on many items because they need to make enough profit on initial sales to cover the losses on the remaining stock that will be sold below cost.

    However it is an example of a lobby group getting some action from suppliers. I think it's a reasonable thing for them to ask. They are recognised suppliers of the product in this country and they have a negotiated agreement with the supplier. By allowing the stock to be available online, the supplier is undermining that agreement.

    Where the problem will arise is that it only increases the demand for fake brand stuff from China. That costs a lot of these companies millions.
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    Default Suppliers are enough to drive you crazy.

    Hi all,

    I know that one supplier can not stop everything..... sadly

    I have been told that the best finish for wood products for food (eg goblets and egg cups etc) is Rustin's Plastic Coating. I look on their website, they have two suppliers in Perth metro area "Timbercon and Carba-tec" Both do not list the product on their website, when I phone the person answering the phone says I do not know of that product

    I went to the Carba-Tec store in Balcatta, as I need some bench dog equipment and a marking knife. I look over the show room and could only find the marking knife.I could not see any of the bench dog stuff I wanted on the shelves. I found a store assistant, asked for the various stuff I needed. The person was quite rude, he said "It was the Wood show on the weekend we are still unpacking.... We do not know where anything is" I could not find any of the bench dog stuff I found the Veritas area, but their was not much stock (I do not know where they were as they were not at the show lol)

    I shudder everytime I have to go to Carba-Tec, the staff seem rude, they never seem to have any stock of what I want I have been to the shop 3 times now, I have only once come out with any of what I went in for.

    I have asked my supplier to stock the Rustin's stuff (they probably will ) to start off with I can order a small amount and get it shipped by road

    Unfortunately Carba-Tec are the only place I can get the cheap plastic dogs (I am now going to turn my own wooden version (square head with a round peg (I can chamfer the head 2 degrees to force the work down. I may have to buy the Veritas stuff online, which is not as cheap as Carba-Tec

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    Geekgirl, I moved your post here as we don't really need 2 threads on the same subject running side by side

    I'm not sure there is a lot more to say on this subject anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Shed View Post
    Geekgirl, I moved your post here as we don't really need 2 threads on the same subject running side by side

    I'm not sure there is a lot more to say on this subject anyway.
    Thanks, I thought I was going mad lol

    The point I was making is that some importers based over east are not realising that the resellers are not doing the products justice. I feel some of the importers are thinking that people are not interested in the products, which is not the case, we can not access the products we want

    Sigh sometimes I hate living in Perth, if I was over east I could access multiple suppliers for one product (esp in Sydney it seems)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geekgirl View Post

    Sigh sometimes I hate living in Perth, if I was over east I could access multiple suppliers for one product (esp in Sydney it seems)

    Kat.
    Well Kat, you may have to emigrate then

    Lived in Adelaide for 35 years and WA was part of my territory, always amused me the way Sandgropers referred to the "wise men from the East", and believe it or not that included SA!

    In their view a totally different country started at the WA/SA border, hasn't changed much has it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geekgirl View Post
    Sigh sometimes I hate living in Perth, if I was over east I could access multiple suppliers for one product (esp in Sydney it seems)

    Kat.
    Try living in FNQ

    We have Bunnies in Cairns (just over 2 hours away), Cairns Hardware in Cairns and Innisfail (just over 1 hour away) and M10 in Tully (about 1/2 hour away).

    Neither of them carry any decent woodworking stuff at all, just power tools.

    Everything has be bought unseen and one has to get to know the sales people by phone. There is no other way.

    I am lucky, I get on well with both CarbaTec and H&F people in Brissy, they have got to know what I want and go out of their way to get it for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Shed View Post
    Well Kat, you may have to emigrate then

    Lived in Adelaide for 35 years and WA was part of my territory, always amused me the way Sandgropers referred to the "wise men from the East", and believe it or not that included SA!

    In their view a totally different country started at the WA/SA border, hasn't changed much has it?
    All my family lives close, plus being self employed all my customers are here (I work direct to a few customers, one for just under 20 years, left apprenticeship with them then subcontracted to them). I do like the area (although colder would be nice is Tassie supplied well ??

    It does suck that they think this way, I now know why a lot of the WA mines buy things in from over east

    The people in WA are a great bunch and I do love the attitude around the place

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    As the advert on this forum says, "Australia's largest range of tools for wood".
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