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    Default Who reads instructions?

    Just browsed through the forums this evening, and picked up on comments whereby it is indicated that people dont read instructions.

    I find this truly remarkable, I know that sometimes instructions take a bit to wade through, but I have found that if you take the time to read [and decipher] the instructions a lot of heartache is saved down the track, aqnd it is quite amazing what you can learn from reading the manufacturers instructions.

    There are an awful lot of mis-information out there as to how things should be done, yet when compared to the manufacturers instructions, it just that - mis-information. And depending upon what you are using/playing with if you have a complaint about the product, the manufaturer will drop you like a hot rock if it comes out that instructions were not followed.

    A case in point for woodies is the instrcution book for putting together a Triton work centre. In rather large heavy block printing it states 'THERE IS ONLY ON RIGHT WAY TO PUT THIS TOGETHER, PLEASE READ THE INSTRUCTIONS'

    I have had a couple of mate buy Tritons and have phoned me frustrated in that they canot get the thing together. When asked 'Have you read the instructions' - the no reply says it all

    Over the years I have found it interesting to note when people have asked me 'How do you know that' and the answer is 'I read the instructions' the general response is - Do you really read the instructions?

    Love to hear comments from others

    Colin Howkins
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    Reading the instructions when attempting to assemble or modify a new tool is a clear violation of the Code of Practice. You are now on notice.

    6.2.1. Instruction manuals. Under no circumstances should a bloke ever completely read the instructions to anything. Ideally they shouldn't be read at all, but if absolutely necessary a casual flick through should be more than enough for any bloke to assemble and operate anything. A bloke with a new tool should regard its instruction manual in much the same light as he regards a road map when driving his car.


    6.2.1.1. In circumstances where a given bloke hasn’t got the proverbial clue as to how a new tool goes together, he must make an attempt. Any bloke found with an untouched, un-assembled new tool and an open instruction manual will be held to have committed a Code violation.


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    instructions dose that have sompthing to do with the big WARNING!on the little bit of papper that i give to the bin evry time i get a new tool.

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    Cabot's used to have printed on their paint cans
    "When all else fails ,read the instructions"
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    I do, but then SHMBO says I read everything and anything. Can't help myself. of course I don't always follow them as my repeated violation of The Code of Practice demonstrates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin Howkins View Post
    Just browsed through the forums this evening, and picked up on comments whereby it is indicated that people dont read instructions.

    I find this truly remarkable, I know that sometimes instructions take a bit to wade through, but I have found that if you take the time to read [and decipher] the instructions a lot of heartache is saved down the track, aqnd it is quite amazing what you can learn from reading the manufacturers instructions.

    There are an awful lot of mis-information out there as to how things should be done, yet when compared to the manufacturers instructions, it just that - mis-information. And depending upon what you are using/playing with if you have a complaint about the product, the manufaturer will drop you like a hot rock if it comes out that instructions were not followed.

    A case in point for woodies is the instrcution book for putting together a Triton work centre. In rather large heavy block printing it states 'THERE IS ONLY ON RIGHT WAY TO PUT THIS TOGETHER, PLEASE READ THE INSTRUCTIONS'

    I have had a couple of mate buy Tritons and have phoned me frustrated in that they canot get the thing together. When asked 'Have you read the instructions' - the no reply says it all

    Over the years I have found it interesting to note when people have asked me 'How do you know that' and the answer is 'I read the instructions' the general response is - Do you really read the instructions?

    Love to hear comments from others

    Colin Howkins
    Graceville Qld


    I started reading through this, Colin, but after a few words I felt that I had the gist of it ....

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    I always read the instructions before assembling and using a new tool, same as I read articles and books about them.

    Anyone who doesn't is IMHO a fool, and anyone who quotes the so called "Code" for their failure to read instructions is an even bigger fool.


    Peter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sturdee View Post
    I always read the instructions before assembling and using a new tool, same as I read articles and books about them.

    Anyone who doesn't is IMHO a fool, and anyone who quotes the so called "Code" for their failure to read instructions is an even bigger fool.


    Peter.
    We need an amendment or an addition to the Code which stipulates that it should not be denigrated in this way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sturdee View Post
    I always read the instructions before assembling and using a new tool, same as I read articles and books about them.

    Anyone who doesn't is IMHO a fool, and anyone who quotes the so called "Code" for their failure to read instructions is an even bigger fool.


    Peter.
    You've got my vote Peter I've spent years telling people that bought my software to RTFM, nothing more annoying than getting a phone call from some fool that doesn't read the manual and then blames the software.

    As to actually being proud of being ignorant well................

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sturdee View Post
    I always read the instructions before assembling and using a new tool, same as I read articles and books about them.

    Anyone who doesn't is IMHO a fool, and anyone who quotes the so called "Code" for their failure to read instructions is an even bigger fool.

    Peter.
    In all honesty Peter, I must confess I don't always read the instructions on most things as it is obvious how they are assembled, however if I come across something I don't understand then I refer to the instructions. I am sure most folk would also have had the experience where the instructions have been translated from another language and in some instances impossible to follow.
    I have a friend of many years who cannot read and have seen him take a complicated unassembled item out of its box and have it assembled perfectly without reading any instructions. I certainly would not call him a fool, uneducated to a certain degree, yes but not a fool. I think that is a bit strong to call someone a fool because they don't conform to your own ideas and beliefs.
    I have built many computers (my other hobby) over the years and I very rarely refer to instructions or manuals when I assemble them. So far, I haven't had a failure. I don't condemn anyone for reading instructions but some people just have a natural ability to work things out for themselves and if that suits them to do it that way, then good luck to them.
    Of course, all warning signs and dangerous procedure warnings should be heeded but I think if the project is dangerous in any way, most guys wouldn't attempt to do the job themselves if they didn't know that they were doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Shed View Post
    You've got my vote Peter I've spent years telling people that bought my software to RTFM, nothing more annoying than getting a phone call from some fool that doesn't read the manual and then blames the software.As to actually being proud of being ignorant well................
    Of course I can understand where you are coming from here, most people don't have a clue as to how new software works therefor it would not be prudent to try to work it out yourself and to read the instructions is probably the only way to work it out. But you must admit, there are certain things that are not difficult to work out for yourself and in fact some instructions enclosed with some products confuse the buyer more than help them. I have seen instances where if you followed the instructions on assembling a certain item to the letter, it would not or could not work. they are so badly translated.
    My son is an overseer of machinery in a large company in Queensland and the machinery they operate is computer controlled. This machinery is made in Italy and recently a problem at the factory with this machine could not be fixed by local techies and the manufacturers of the machine sent over one of their top men from Italyto sort out the problem.
    The machine was set 100% by the book but was not functioning properly.
    It took the tech guy a couple of hours to sort out the problem. My son pointed out to him that the machine was set by the book and the procedure that the guy had just carried out was not in the manual. The guy just laughed at my son and told him that sometimes you have to use your head and forget the manual.
    Reality is no background music.
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    Quote Originally Posted by munruben View Post
    I have a friend of many years who cannot read and have seen him take a complicated unassembled item out of its box and have it assembled perfectly without reading any instructions. I certainly would not call him a fool, uneducated to a certain degree, yes but not a fool.
    That is a red herring, as obviously I was referring to those who can read but decide not to. And I maintain that anyone who can read and fails to do so when getting a new tool is indeed a fool.

    Especially those who justify their decision by referring to an alledged "Code" to justify their foolishness. Hence I personally consider those that subscribe to the said code are foolish.

    In your case of building computers as a hobby you would have originally read the manuals so they are not new tools, hence that is different.

    A lot of the questions on this board would be unneccessary if members read the instructions first, so why not read them as they are authoritive whereas a lot of the answers here are not.


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    I think we all know that we should read the manual. When we don't we know we are flirting with problems or danger or mistakes. But I'd still rather be the type of person who has a go at it and then refers to the manual when I need help than the type who studies these things as if they've been written by a Divine power.

    I actually enjoy the process of trying to put something together without the manual, and I often see referring to the manual as a sort of a failure.

    But I have to be careful here because I might attract the attention of the Peanut Gallery (not you Sturdee) who have already focussed on this thread.

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    I find reading the instructions on a new tool similar to reading a book on chaos theory, there is no comprehension at all.

    Thats why the tool is used/built/played with, then if a problem is encountered, instructions are referred to, at least then there is a comprehension of what they are talking about.

    A well known and very large office machine supplier found that the insructions where the last course of reference when it came to operating and problem solving with their machines. The most popular option when seeking help was found to be to ask someone, so they under took a training program that allowed at least one person in the office to be knowledgable in it's use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rossluck View Post
    I think we all know that we should read the manual. When we don't we know we are flirting with problems or danger or mistakes. But I'd still rather be the type of person who has a go at it and then refers to the manual when I need help than the type who studies these things as if they've been written by a Divine power.

    I actually enjoy the process of trying to put something together without the manual, and I often see referring to the manual as a sort of a failure.
    Ditto. And, Peter, if you want to start a philosophical discussion about the distiction and similarities of arrogance and foolishness, I'm game... As regards using the Code as an excuse, yes, it is lame, but can't you take a joke?

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