Thread: Werd ov warning

Originally Posted by wheelinround

Warning major Rant

Each time you demand grammatical and spelling be corrected or when some one has got so frustrated they type dogmaticly you are breaching Human Rights laws of Australia. You then put U-beaut in breach of these laws also.

If this is true (which I doubt) it is the silliest thing I've heard of in a long while.

Originally Posted by Honorary Bloke

If this is true (which I doubt) it is the silliest thing I've heard of in a long while.

Best check as Human rights laws originated in the USA.

I would like to say this does not give anyone the right to use offensive language ............but isn't it strange we can accept the use of that more than bad spelling, grammatical error's or someone personal problem medical or otherwise.

Eye Rekkun U hav a pointe their Wheelin. Most are senzible enuff to realize that the language blongs to the usahs, not the spellink police.

You're warning me?

I don't know what preceded this thread, but based solely on your trivializing people with skills you neither possess nor respect, I thought I'd step forwards.

Two things set us apart from our closest relatives; opposable thumbs and language. Many people display great assiduousness with the former, but alas, exhibit total indifference to the latter. Why is this? Why do some individuals take immense pride in showing off their dexterous capabilities, yet talk and write like illiterate cave dwellers? It's our duty as human beings to not only embrace what differentiates us from the rest of the animal kingdom, but become proficient with it.

Human rights are of the highest magnitude, but please don't be so dismissive of grammar and spelling. To do so shows ignorance well below your ability.

I agree that conceptual language that sets the human race apart. It certainly isnt tool use, I recently read about Octopus species near Indonesia that are tool users. But more than that, it is the ability to empathise and be compassionate which has led to the rise of social interaction and eventually the efficient transfer of knowledge. The minutiae of the recorded spelling and grammar of the English language must, by definition, always be behind the usage of the language. All languages are continually evolving to meet the changing environment in which they are used.

I have a son who is ferociously bright. He is the champion of the boy's dance group at his school and the school is the only one who has a boy's dance group in the district. This is due in no small part to his leadership. He has problems with spelling as the history of English is the mixing of Saxon, Norse, French and Latin and there are different grammars and spelling rules for different occasions and words. He is classed as an "under achiever" even though his verbal acuity and memory are well above average. He will need a recorder in exams to get the spelling accurate enough to satisfy the examiners as the tests he undergoes are about the language and not the purported topics of maths, science etc..

Sorry mate. This is a really hot topic for me. We treat dislexya with contempt but ignore the other portions of brain function that make us human. Its discrimination. My previous post was a clumsy attempt to make a point.



EDIT: I just reread all this and I realise the topic is well worn on this forum. apologies for repitition, Preaching to the choir methinks......

Well, there are a couple of issues here, aren't there?

If someone is able to convey their meaning well enough that others can understand it, then that should be enough, shouldn't it? But language is such a complicated tool, especially when written, that another's meaning is not always clear. A case in point is that you had to ask Woodwould if he was talking to you, as it wasn't clear to you, although it was clear to me that he was talking to the original poster because of the common use of the word "warning".

All the bright ideas in the world aren't much use to anyone if you can't communicate them. So I think, whilst it's probably not so important to be able to spell well, or to know the rules of grammar, it is important that people learn to express themselves. It's an area that often could do with some improvement to allow us to understand each other better.

The other point to be made is that I doubt very much there is anything in human rights which makes it illegal to point out another's spelling mistakes. That is just ludicrous. I would like to see the bit of legislation that enforces that idea. It's a matter of good manners, not law.

I dunno! I heard an interview with someone who adds new words to the dictionary. Seems that if it is in general use it is a word. Personally, I like that English has changed so much with its contacts with other cultures. I love learning about word origins and how a particular definition developed. The only thing that stays the same is change, that's for sure. And we are all quite capable of working out what people mean. Or at least asking if we don't know.

Sabastiaan well said its a shame we are so trained to believe that what we see as others imperfections are signs of idiocy lack of brains. Yet we applaud the man/woman who can deliver a verbal abuse of gutter language and accept this as normal.

I applaud those in life who step forward to help where others don't and can't for fear of what ever may befall them.

I hope your son comes to know and gain confidence in the fact that there are people all around the world who care and are willing to help not just put down.

Ray

Seems that if it is in general use it is a word.

That's how all the words got there!

We have to have some rules though, otherwise flabberty fluggle jib grotweilding spontanickle?

Originally Posted by silentC

That's how all the words got there!

We have to have some rules though, otherwise flabberty fluggle jib grotweilding spontanickle?

If we work on it I reckon we coul dget that in the dictionary by the next review.

SC I realised what I had typed and couldn't find another way to put it, but it isn't the typing or spelling so much but the discrimination shown towards those people for what or how they do its marking them as D-Head's/dumb/stupid/illiterate.

Originally Posted by silentC

That's how all the words got there!

We have to have some rules though, otherwise flabberty fluggle jib grotweilding spontanickle?

Learning to speak Welsh are we or Gaelic SC

Originally Posted by wheelinround

SC I realised what I had typed and couldn't find another way to put it, but it isn't the typing or spelling so much but the discrimination shown towards those people for what or how they do its marking them as D-Head's/dumb/stupid/illiterate.

Fair enough. I understand what you're getting at, although I still think it's not something a private citizen could get in trouble with. Libel perhaps? Not an expert by any means but I think that discrimination would only come into it if an employer refused to give you a job - but then if the job required written communication skills, there mightn't be much you could do about it.

Originally Posted by silentC

Fair enough. I understand what you're getting at, although I still think it's not something a private citizen could get in trouble with. Libel perhaps? Not an expert by any means but I think that discrimination would only come into it if an employer refused to give you a job - but then if the job required written communication skills, there mightn't be much you could do about it.

Sorry SC but here your wrong the laws are for all not just companies, this would mean the laws discriminate themselves.