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    Default Schaublin

    I'm seriously tempted....

    I was hoping my son Matthew might have got this one.. https://www.troostwijkauctions.com/u...14417-2261126/

    But the gem is the Schaublin 135... with tooling as seperate lots it's about to close https://www.troostwijkauctions.com/u...14417-2261123/

    The kicker with these auctions, is that when the main auction closes, they offer the lathe and tooling lots as a combined item, which then overrrides the previous auctions...

    Regards
    Ray

    PS... The combined lots went for 7400 euro... https://www.troostwijkauctions.com/u...792-0-2266299/

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    I'm looking at the little smiling face Ray. Does that mean I'll get to fondle a 135 when I'm in Shepparton next?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RayG View Post
    I'm seriously tempted....

    I was hoping my son Matthew might have got this one.. https://www.troostwijkauctions.com/u...14417-2261126/

    But the gem is the Schaublin 135... with tooling as seperate lots it's about to close https://www.troostwijkauctions.com/u...14417-2261123/

    The kicker with these auctions, is that when the main auction closes, they offer the lathe and tooling lots as a combined item, which then overrrides the previous auctions...

    Regards
    Ray

    PS... The combined lots went for 7400 euro... https://www.troostwijkauctions.com/u...792-0-2266299/
    very nice ray.
    we need those auction here in Australia .
    Peter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anorak Bob View Post
    I'm looking at the little smiling face Ray. Does that mean I'll get to fondle a 135 when I'm in Shepparton next?
    I wish.... no sadly not this time around, although the finger hovered over the "BID NOW" button a few times when it was around the 5000 euro mark for the combined lots.

    I noticed a huge selection of counterbore tooling came with it, makes me wonder what it was used for.. Preparing lab samples for something?

    The 102 went for 1000 euro.... Matthew didn't bid...


    Quote Originally Posted by thorens View Post
    very nice ray.
    we need those auction here in Australia .
    Peter
    Agreed, Peter, and the way these guys organize an auction really puts Grays' to shame..

    Did you see the boxes and boxes of Tesa and Etalon stuff ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RayG View Post
    I wish.... no sadly not this time around, although the finger hovered over the "BID NOW" button a few times when it was around the 5000 euro mark for the combined lots.

    I noticed a huge selection of counterbore tooling came with it, makes me wonder what it was used for.. Preparing lab samples for something?

    The 102 went for 1000 euro.... Matthew didn't bid...




    Agreed, Peter, and the way these guys organize an auction really puts Grays' to shame..

    Did you see the boxes and boxes of Tesa and Etalon stuff ...

    Regards
    Ray
    Hi Ray
    yes Gray's auction is just crary and some time insane .
    there is one 102 on ebay located some where in Vic . you didn't buy it have you?
    I missed out that one simply because i don't know where the seller locaed and by the time he get back to me , some one already hit buy it now
    Peter

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    Default One for the collectors

    Could be nice restored - looks a bit like Schaublin.

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    I was watching a doco on Rolls Royce and noticed they used Cinci machining equipment in their manufacturing of auto engines .

    Good enough for RR the brand maybe good enough for us amateurs

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    Quote Originally Posted by nearnexus View Post
    Could be nice restored - looks a bit like Schaublin.

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    Tailstock doesn't. Looks mighty like a Hercus 9 TS with some additional meat grafted to the base.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anorak Bob View Post
    Tailstock doesn't. Looks mighty like a Hercus 9 TS with some additional meat grafted to the base.

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    Good Eyes!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anorak Bob View Post
    Tailstock doesn't. Looks mighty like a Hercus 9 TS with some additional meat grafted to the base.

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    I'm not sure what the tailstock is. Does look like Hercus. I've just spent the last half hour going through LathesUK site looking at the slotted beam type toolmakers lathes trying to identify that particular bit. Some of the parts will fit between makes.

    It's definitely not original. The rest of the unit looks to be early 1920's.

    Be interesting to see what it goes for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nearnexus View Post
    I'm not sure what the tailstock is. Does look like Hercus. I've just spent the last half hour going through LathesUK site looking at the slotted beam type toolmakers lathes trying to identify that particular bit. Some of the parts will fit between makes.

    It's definitely not original. The rest of the unit looks to be early 1920's.

    Be interesting to see what it goes for.
    I've just tossed 20 minutes wading in vain on Tony's site too Rob. Plenty looking similar but nothing with the continuous tee slot running down the side of the bed.

    Bob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anorak Bob View Post
    I've just tossed 20 minutes wading in vain on Tony's site too Rob. Plenty looking similar but nothing with the continuous tee slot running down the side of the bed.

    Bob.
    The early Hardinge lathes were sold as Catarcat lathes - see bottom of page for shot of rear "T" slot.

    Catarcat Lathes

    That's what this is.

    It's very old.

    It looks like it may also have a screw cutting attachment in the box of bits - but it looks different to the one on the restored job.

    Same weird setup as Schaublin used to drive the compound topslide.

    Very interesting.

    At the price I'd buy it if it was close.

    Rob

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    Default Old Hardinge

    I also just noticed that if the tool cutter is set at centre height in the Ebay photo, the strange tailstock appears to be be way too high.

    EDIT: maybe not so, I just noticed that in another better shot it looks OK. Maybe just the camera angle.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nearnexus View Post
    The early Hardinge lathes were sold as Catarcat lathes - see bottom of page for shot of rear "T" slot.

    Catarcat Lathes

    That's what this is.

    It's very old.

    It looks like it may also have a screw cutting attachment in the box of bits - but it looks different to the one on the restored job.

    Same weird setup as Schaublin used to drive the compound topslide.

    Very interesting.

    At the price I'd buy it if it was close.

    Rob
    I see you kept searching Rob. Well done. That would have been a beautiful lathe once, before the porch paint and the tailstock transplant.

    I have a couple of Hardinge accessories, possibly better finished than their Schaublin counterparts - https://www.woodworkforums.com/f65/co...9/#post1279459

    There's a video on YouTube, posted by Arthur Marks from the Schaublin Yahoo group, showing him using his 102 with the universal jointed compound feed. I reckon I could put up with weird.

    Bob

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    Default Hardinge

    Yes, I don't give up easily

    I still can't quite put my finger on it, but I'm sure I've seen that tailstock somewhere else, and I don't mean Hercus. Looks American.

    I like these sized lathes as a project as they don't take over the shed, and they can scrub up nice. In it's day it would have been beautifully finished.

    All fixable, even the bodgy repair on the draw tube end. You could grind out the bronze and mig it up and remachine/work it back to original.

    Incidentally I polished up the draw tube grip on the Schaublin (thinking it was bronze) and it's actually copper. Looks amazing as it's got that copper pink tinge about it.

    Great style in those days.

    Rob

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