Thread: Few things I have seen for sale ATM

And there goes any chance of me getting one of those items.

The Deckel FP4M looks nice with the rotary and plain table. It would be in my top shelf as far as manual toolroom mills go. No tooling to see so I wonder what is happening to that.
I am assuming the blue paint is a recent addition.
Had to put a low bid in just to make sure it does not go too cheap. Not that I think that is likely.
Is the high spped head from that machine ? If anyone goes to look at it would love to hear what you think (even if that is after the auction finishes if you plan to bid yourself).

I very nearly brought an FP3 with extensive tooling earlier in the year that Ray and Josh put me onto. Price was $7000 which was reasonable but you have to be quick as between agreeing to come and look at it when the owner got back from China and getting there it was withdrawn presumably sold.

Mark

Originally Posted by markgray

...Is the high spped head from that machine ? ....Mark

(Drool.) I think that's a boring head, not the high speed head for general milling.
If so it should fit several of the FP series machines.


Bill
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Thanks guys - you have most likely ensured that someone off forum gets this. That said there are 3 on Ebay Germany at the moment. Just a shame that the unwashed masses can access this section, rather than "members only".

If the precision boring head is of the same era, should only be a FP1 and FP4M fitment then. Seeing there's no riser evident, a betting man would say it's to suit the 4.

While the constant "help" of people pointing out upcoming items isn't entirely appreciated by this little black duck, fair old stretch to expect a bargain at Grays!

ahh OK... So if someone got it for $500 and posted in the tool gloat thread they got a Deckel FP4 for $500 people would complain about that... if someone points out a Deckel is for sale and it goes for true value, then people complain about that..

Well you can please some people some of the time, but you cannot please everybody all of the time...

No one seems to be too worried about the cylindrical grinder I posted.... fancy that..

Originally Posted by Hunch

If the precision boring head is of the same era, should only be a FP1 and FP4M fitment then. Seeing there's no riser evident, a betting man would say it's to suit the 4.

The FP1 and FP2 have different pressure angles for the gears that drive the head. Given the colour of the item I am not convinced it is for the FP4. I think more likely an FP2. Anyone's guess however.

Originally Posted by .RC.

Well you can please some people some of the time, but you cannot please everybody all of the time...

Let me know what you're looking for RC so that I can be sure to post it up here. Just so you don't miss it of course! It flows both ways.

Does not worry me... Everyone knows I am after a smallish planer...

In fact one was posted here years ago that I did not know was for sale and I was grateful for the heads up, even though I was outbid on it..

Originally Posted by variant22

Let me know what you're looking for RC so that I can be sure to post it up here. Just so you don't miss it of course! It flows both ways.

now i am wondering why you read this section of the forum , if not to see if there is something for sale or auction that you have missed elsewhere .

johno

Originally Posted by texx

now i am wondering why you read this section of the forum , if not to see if there is something for sale or auction that you have missed elsewhere .

johno

Johno, didn't I see you complaining a couple of days ago about not posting here because the flaming stressed you too much? Then you come on into an active conflict zone to offer your 2 cents? There is something in that for you to think about.

Being a relatively new member of the forum what is the general consensus about talking about auction items prior to the auction closing.
The title of this thread seems to suggest that is what this thread is for.

Forum: EBAY, GUMTREE, AMAZON (and other sale sites) Metalwork ONLY

A place to inform members and others about metalworking ads on eBay, Gumtree and other off forum sites for metalworking machinery and tools, etc

There seems to have been plenty of discussion about lots of items without any problems. But a highly prized machine on the most watched auction site that I assume everyone who is interested in these things looks at, seems to have caused a stir.
If you are going to have a thread like this you have to be prepared to take the good with the bad. There will be times when you find out about something that you would otherwise not have known and been very happy, and there may be times when you want something to stay quiet to increase your chances of buying it at a lower price. And I say this as someone who is bidding on the Deckel in question!

So moderator/senior members and others should we restrict listing and discussion till after items have finished or is it Ok to list and discuss while items are still 'live'. Lets not get too carried away with this but a general guideline would help us newer members to not upset the established order of things.


For my 2cents worth (and obviously Richard thinks the same as he was the original poster) I am happy to have items listed before they close and any discussion/help with identification/offers of inspection etc to be done prior to bidding closing. This is not meant to kick the hornets nest so remember we are all friends here!

Regards

Mark

For the record I personally PM'd RC just a couple of weeks ago and told him I was looking for a Deckel. No PM giving me a heads up, just this public post.

As for "live" auctions newbies should be aware they are likely to step on someone's toes by posting here.

Originally Posted by variant22

For the record I personally PM'd RC just a couple of weeks ago and told him I was looking for a Deckel. No PM giving me a heads up, just this public post.

As for "live" auctions newbies should be aware they are likely to step on someone's toes by posting here.

With respect, you and I probably don't know what has been on RC's plate since you PM'd him. Sometimes life gets in the road of us being perfect. None the less I can understand why you are upset over this.

A bit over a year ago I posted about a Deckel FP3LB for sale on a grays auction. The motor on an FP3 is bit big (electrically) for me to run. Just to be sure, I tracked the vendor down and asked questions. Turned out to be a FP2LB, so mentally kicked my self for mentioning the auction on here. Bid hard and got it at what I believe was a fair price (at the top end of my budget, though, as not much goes cheap on Grays!) Machine needs some work to get back in proper operation, I can live with that. Morals to the story... Expect to pay fair value, if you get it for less, good luck to you....... This forum is a small section of all the people in this country who play with metal, posting an auction on here is probably neither here nor there in the end..... either your budget will be enough or it wont be.

With regards to the Deckel head. It looks identical to the precision boring head that came with my mill. It's my understanding it will fit the FP1, FP2 and LKG precision grinder. In the later configuration it would be known as an LKB. There is a separate raiser The lathes.co.uk site states that most of the attachments for the FP1 and FP2 are interchangeable. The bid on this lot is $239 at the moment which looks cheap to me for the head alone. 2 days to go.

Cheers

The Beryl Bloke