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    Default Edward. B. Scott Thicknesser.

    Just running through some of my photos of machinery I have owned, I had this one for a while, big plans for it but had a friend rock by and made an offer, I still have visitation rights as I know where it is.
    I did a little research from memory at the time, posted about it some where else but very interesting research, I managed to find my notes saved on my Computer, I still should chase this up some more .....

    Completely and utterly blown away today, I had picked up my 24 inch planer and was in the process of unloading it off the trailer. Dusted the sides of with a small brush, covered in cobwebs it had been sitting in a paddock for the last 10 years so,
    Had a good look at the makers badge and the more I brushed the more the letters appeared clearer.
    Now originally advertised as an Edward & Scott thicknesser suddenly a letter B appears between Edward and Scott.
    That then changes a Google search then, 5 minutes later nothing comes up, bit more of a search nothing except an E.B. Scott Engineering on the fourth page, and in a different suburb to Northcote Victoria, on the makers badge.
    I gave the number a call any way, and spoke to Ron, and at first I was a bit urr and umm, not exactly knowing how to explain my situation, I started to ask the history of his Engineering firm and were they ever located in Northcote, yes he said, the E.B. stands for Edward Benjamin Scott who was his great Uncle.
    Well I nearly fell over, and then he said why don't you give Dad a call and tell him (I had fallen over at this stage) 'are you serious"
    I said, " Yea, He's 90 years old but he's as sharp as a tack", Gee Wizz does it get any better than that.
    I gave the old boy (Keith) a call, and what a Gentleman, it turns out the company started at around 1918 or so by his Uncle who began the company in his backyard workshop Returning cable tram wheels when they developed a flat spot, on his big metal lathe.
    Keith his Nephew went to work there full time at around 1946-47, after a stint in the air force, and by the sound of it took over later on. Keith said they made many woodworking machines such as a 32 inch bandsaw, a swing saw, a 12 inch Jointer, 30 inch chain fed rip saw and a 24 inch thicknesser planer like mine, and more
    I said to Keith I would love to catch up with him and promised to E mail him some photos, yes you read correctly the old boy is on the computer, Its an amazing world guys, and I am just pinching my self....



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    that was as good as the first time i read it Matty.
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    Great work digging for info on an aussie maker Matty !!! Not much local info about as you well know. I'm looking for info on my bandsaw by A.A.Tyson, Engineer, Melbourne and have found ZERO. Regards John

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    Wonderful to have that history recorded. Other fields, like the Australian furniture makers and their furniture have been well documented by Fahy and Simpson since 1972. Maybe some of you enthusiasts should collaborate to document Australian woodwork machinery manufacturers. I'm sure there's a book there!


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    Quote Originally Posted by jcge View Post
    Great work digging for info on an aussie maker Matty !!! Not much local info about as you well know. I'm looking for info on my bandsaw by A.A.Tyson, Engineer, Melbourne and have found ZERO. Regards John

    Hi John, There are two parts to where I work and we have a A.A.Tyson band saw in each ,Two saws the same. A great solid little thing aren't they?
    The one I bought I did up with a paint job and new rubber to the wheels . For the last 35 years when ever we talk of the saw with my Dad he mentions " AA Tyson, He was a relation of Mine " and for 35 years I have just replied " Yeah ? " though about it for 5 seconds, and left it at that.
    99% of the time while looking over the machine and talking about it I never even bring it up , I just don't think to say it or remember to ?? The connection to Dad and then me is so distant.
    I just rang him and asked more, and I got
    " an Auntys brother in law , Now Goodnight " He's going to sleep on it and ring me tomorrow. He's 81, and it's his Aunty.

    I will see who I can look up and try and go backwards from there . It would be nice to find anything out about the Engineer A.A.Tyson.

    Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xanthorrhoeas View Post
    Wonderful to have that history recorded. Other fields, like the Australian furniture makers and their furniture have been well documented by Fahy and Simpson since 1972. Maybe some of you enthusiasts should collaborate to document Australian woodwork machinery manufacturers. I'm sure there's a book there!


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    I know the book well, and I would love to put together an Australian Woodworking machinery Manufactures version, lots of work, but very interesting !

    Jack, John and Rob thanks for your comments also.

    Melbourne Matty.

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    Matty,

    great story, it's amazing sometimes where things like a phone call, or email can lead you, lots of history with Australian companies, but not much documented unfortunately. Looking at the thicknesser, it looked familiar, but sadly I have no E.B. Scott catalogues. Have a look at this and tell me what you think:



    This is from the 1923 Mcpherson's catalogue, note it's badged a Macson. Now I have never been that good at the "spot the difference" game, but I think you would have to say it is a very close relative.

    On the back cover of the Mcpherson's catalogue is a snapshot of where they were regarding production capabilities:



    Now obviously this makes Edward Benjamin Scott only about 5 years into his business, but I wonder, was he supplying Mcpherson's at the time, or if not, was he sourcing his thicknesser from a company that was supplying McPherson's??

    As always lots of questions and few answers.

    Cheers,

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    Someone must know. Verbal and living histories are very important. The National Librrary loves to record this sort of thing, but it needs your expert contributions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by camoz View Post
    Matty,

    Now obviously this makes Edward Benjamin Scott only about 5 years into his business, but I wonder, was he supplying Mcpherson's at the time, or if not, was he sourcing his thicknesser from a company that was supplying McPherson's??

    As always lots of questions and few answers.

    Cheers,

    Camo
    Cam, its uncanny !!
    having seen the actual machine for so long I can see looking at your pic that there are so many features that match this machine to a tee !
    I would even go so far as to say that its a match !
    Now, you are thinking exactly the same as I was when you put that pic up, its a Macson branded machine and yet McPhersons were not woodworking manafactures at the time.
    This raises more questions as you say !!
    Amazing catalog cut Cam, thank you for showing !!


    Heres where my McPherson's catalog's end at 1935, this is a different machine and possibly when they did manufacture, I'm still unsure ....

    Melbourne Matty.

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    Thought I would add a little more to the Edward B. Scott post with a 32 inch bandsaw they made.
    Heavy little bugger, weighs just as much as my 36 inch Barker, the wheels have new rubber on this one and the motor and bearings are in great condition.








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    Matty - that's a nice band saw. Very very similar to the old Crescent designs.

    John

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    Hi Matty,
    I have exactly the same bandsaw. I purchased it fron a guy in Bendigo about 5 years ago.
    It was in poor condition but I spent a couple of months and restored it.

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    Saw 1 S.jpgSaw 5 S.jpg

    I had an old bandsaw almost identical to that one, it was labelled as a "K&S".
    You can see that the arm narrows a little towards the front and the base is a bit cruder, but all of the mechanism for the upper wheel is the same.
    What sort of tilt trunnion set up does it have. My old one only had a very crude arrangement. Limited the tilt to about 25 or 30 degrees from memory.
    I sold it a while back after i'd cleaned it up and got the 36" Barker i have now.
    Very heavy saw, as you say the same weight as the bigger Barker.

    Have fun,
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    Quote Originally Posted by ab1 View Post
    Hi Matty,
    I have exactly the same bandsaw. I purchased it fron a guy in Bendigo about 5 years ago.
    It was in poor condition but I spent a couple of months and restored it.

    AB, funny you should mention that, The EB thicknesser also came from Bendigo as well, love to see some Pic's if you can, no pressure.
    Alli you are right about the weight, very heavy for such a little saw.

    Melbourne Matty.

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    Hi Matty,

    Photos of the Edward B Scott bandsaw.

    It was in very poor condition when I picked it up. I got it with a C&H Dovetail machine.
    It took a while to restore. The green paint was given to me by a friend, itís a bit bright, but it was free.

    I replaced all the bearings, and had new shafts made. The tyres were re-rubbered and the tables surface ground. The guides are in reasonable condition. I replaced one of the top guide bearings.

    The machine is very heavy, but I guess this helps with its smooth running.

    The motor is a 3hp 960rpm as can be seen in the photo.

    I have added some guards, all be it, in a bit of a rush. With young children running around and jobs to do, I made something as quick as possible. Theyíre a bit ugly, but does the job, and being connected to the DC helps in picking up the mess.
    Unfortunately, due to the guards, the name plate canít be seen, however, it looks exactly the same as in the other photos.
    Cheers,

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