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26th April 2016, 07:33 PM #31
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26th April 2016, 07:41 PM #32
Slightly Annoying...
In my search for Wadkin tags I've found around 10 of these...
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EPA 280S - I assume the 'S' means 'Special' - and no test number (so it doesn't fit in the list ) - but instead a test date: 19th August 1946.
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26th April 2016, 08:10 PM #33Senior Member
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Did I miss a post where you admitted to possession of the Wadkin birth registry?
Very prompt response and thanks.
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Could the sequence be disturbed if a machine failed a Test and required further attention in the Works? Having gained its machine no. but not yet its test no.?
Sacrilegious talk really; how could a Wadkin fail?
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26th April 2016, 08:24 PM #35
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26th April 2016, 11:12 PM #36Senior Member
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Had a look through my Wadkin photo file and found a few tags:
Wadkin&Co
MD343 Test4734
DH122 Test1450
PD351 Test4737
Wadkin Ltd
DR130S TestSC86 Like your EPA20S
Cheers
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All the above in UK
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A couple more in UK
PKA 607 #17093
pk 994 # 30253
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14th May 2016, 09:54 PM #39
Range extended to 1960.
Added machines in bold. Test number, followed by model & serial number, then country of residence...
Pre-1937
1041 - RB 7231 - UK;
1313 - JY 107 (bobbin sander) – Australia;
1450 - DH 122 - UK;
2085 - ME 239 – New Zealand;
3197 - RS 133 – New Zealand (RIP);
4501 - MA 263 - UK;
4616 - PKA 266 – UK;
4653 - EV 793 - UK;
4713 - DH 163 (bandsaw) – New Zealand;
4734 - MD 343 - UK;
4737 - PD 351 - UK;
4818 - PL 105 (dimension saw) – UK > USA
5029 - RTA 148 – UK;
5391 - MN 133 - Canada;
7336 - EPA 646 (spindle moulder) - New Zealand;
7665 - ME 513 (mortiser) - Australia;
7671 - RS 115 – UK;
7784 - SOA 350 - UK.
1937
8446 - MJ 413 – UK;
9067 - PKA 390 – Australia;
9335 - RBA 183 (buzzer) – UK;
1938
9510 - MA 137 (morticer) - UK;
9650 - PKA 405 – Australia;
9783 - PKA 412 - UK.
1939
11454 - RU 161 (lathe) - UK;
11455 - CC 1059 - New Zealand;
11704 - LSA 592 (ROUTER) - UK;
1940
14594 - PKA 554 - Ireland;
14979 - EUV 164 - UK;
15111 - RDA 441 (buzzer) – Australia;
1941
17093 - PKA 607 - UK;
17392 - PKA 613 - UK;
1942
18695 - PKA 643 - New Zealand;
1944
22583 - PKA 725 - Scotland > Canada;
1945
24671 - PKA 785 - Australia;
24965 - MA 490 (mortiser) - UK;
25031 - PKA 800 - New Zealand;
27390 - MA 563 – UK;
1946
26657 - LQA 415 - USA;
26763 - MG 699 - New Zealand;
1947
27918 - MA 580 (mortiser) - UK;
29157 - PKA 969 - UK;
1948
30171 - LS 1925 (router) - UK;
30253 - PKA 994 - UK;
31145 - RD 694 - New Zealand;
1949
34218 - MA 853 (mortiser) - UK;
35284 - RE 668 (thicknesser) - Canada;
1950
35723 - PK 1202 - UK;
35836 - WS240 (pattern mill) - Australia;
35844 - RD 855 (buzzer) - UK;
35898 - RR 142 (buzzer) - New Zealand;
36021 - RTA 339 - New Zealand;
36376 - RT 357 - New Zealand;
36408 - RE 705 (thicknesser) - New Zealand;
36554 - PK 1231 - UK;
36572 - PKF 108 - Canada;
37023 - PK 1271 - USA;
37264 - PK 1277 - Australia;
37564 - RS 1126 (lathe) - UK;
37727 - CQ 237 - Australia;
38139 - MG 987 - New Zealand;
38305 - SQ 319 - New Zealand;
38458 - FD 799 (five head moulder) – New Zealand;
1951
38946 - CC 2388 - New Zealand;
38990 - RT 361 (lathe) - UK;
39932 - MA 1119 - UK;
40404 - RTA 405 (lathe) - UK;
41072 - RS 1233 (RS 10 lathe) - Canada;
41075 - RS 1236 (RS 6 lathe) - Canada;
41145 - RTA 380 - New Zealand;
41376 - RM 2039 - Canada;
1952
41542 - WS267 (pattern mill) - first machine test no. for 1952
41563 - MA 1195 (morticer) - UK;
41587 - SP 610 - Australia;
41689 - PK 1437 - Canada;
420256 - PK 1445 - Canada;
42461 - PK 1451 - Canada;
42578 - RS 1291 (wood lathe) - Canada;
42825 - RR 299 (buzzer) - New Zealand;
1953
45347 - LQ 674 - New Zealand;
45658 - SR 1578 - UK;
45723 - RS 1404 (lathe) - UK;
46020 - RS 1415 (wood lathe) - Canada;
46212 - JY 498 (bobbin sander) - Canada;
46284 - NQ 312-S - Canada?;
1954
48966 - LM 1266 - UK;
49379 - PK 1702 - Canada;
49784 - PK 1718 - Canada;
50585 - FD 1125 - Canada?
1955
50716 - PK 1754 - New Zealand;
51434 - PK 1778 - Canada > USA;
51952 - RTA 440 (lathe) - UK;
1956
53723 - PK 1863 - Canada;
53792 - RK 282 (thicknesser) – USA;
54256 - PK 1882 - USA;
54421 - PK 1887 - UK;
54425 - PK 1892 - Australia;
54477 - PK 1899 - Canada > USA;
54478 - PK 1900 - UK;
54521 - RM 2817 - New Zealand;
54580 - JY 569 (bobbin sander) - Canada;
54581 - CC 3253 (RAS) - Canada;
55049 - PK 1947 - Australia;
55228 - LQ 865 - Canada;
55670 - PK 1975 - Canada;
55676 - PK 1982 - UK;
1957
56040 - RS 3777 (RS8 lathe) - Canada;
57045 - EQ 1061 (spindle moulder) - Denmark.
1958
59000 - FM 130 (buzzer/thicknesser) - UK;
1959
61036 - RZ 352 - Canada.
1960
63527 - JV 594 - USA;
62563 - EKA 1339 (5-head tenoner) - UK.
Cheers, Vann.Last edited by Vann; 14th May 2016 at 10:27 PM. Reason: 38990 added.
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Hi. I have my 3 Wadkin machines that I would love to add to your list. At the moment I only have infomation on 2 but the Pk infomation will follow soon.
Wadkin pattern mill. WX250. Test No. 52626
DR30 bandsaw. DR972S. Test No. SC2952.
I will send details of my PK saw shortly. Thanks
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21st May 2016, 09:51 AM #41
Thanks scamp. Much appreciated. I've picked up a couple more numbers myself, but I'll wait until I get your PK numbers before I update the list.
I can't use your DR30 number unfortunately - the letters ("SC") just don't fit into the numbering system.
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11th June 2016, 10:47 PM #42
Update:
Added machines in bold. Test number, followed by model & serial number, then country of residence...
Pre-1937
594 - MG 141 - UK;
1041 - RB 7231 - UK;
1313 - JY 107 (bobbin sander) – Australia;
1450 - DH 122 - UK;
2085 - ME 239 – New Zealand;
2315 - NB 216 (knife grinder) - UK;
3197 - RS 133 – New Zealand (RIP);
3719 - MJ 244 (planer/thicknesser) - UK;
4501 - MA 263 - UK;
4616 - PKA 266 – UK;
4653 - EV 793 - UK;
4713 - DH 163 (bandsaw) – New Zealand;
4734 - MD 343 - UK;
4737 - PD 351 - UK;
4782 - EV 815 (spindle moulder) - UK;
4818 - PL 105 (dimension saw) – UK > USA
5029 - RTA 148 – UK;
5391 - MN 133 - Canada;
6281 - JV 139 (bobbin sander) - UK;
6556 - CC 847 (RAS) - UK;
6759 - KH 253 - UK;
6827 - MD 464 - UK;
7336 - EPA 646 (spindle moulder) - New Zealand;
7665 - ME 513 (mortiser) - Australia;
7671 - RS 115 – UK;
7784 - SOA 350 - UK.
1937
8446 - MJ 413 – UK;
9067 - PKA 390 – Australia;
9335 - RBA 183 (buzzer) – UK;
1938
9510 - MA 137 (morticer) - UK;
9650 - PKA 405 – Australia;
9783 - PKA 412 - UK.
1939
11454 - RU 161 (lathe) - UK;
11455 - CC 1059 - New Zealand;
11704 - LSA 592 (Router) - UK;
1940
14594 - PKA 554 - Ireland;
14979 - EUV 164 - UK;
15111 - RDA 441 (buzzer) – Australia;
1941
17093 - PKA 607 - UK;
17392 - PKA 613 - UK;
1942
18695 - PKA 643 - New Zealand;
18929 - MA 482 - UK;
1944
22583 - PKA 725 - Scotland > Canada;
22749 - RS 712 (lathe) - South Africa;
1945
24671 - PKA 785 - Australia;
24965 - MA 490 (mortiser) - UK;
25031 - PKA 800 - New Zealand;
27390 - MA 563 – UK;
1946
26657 - LQA 415 - USA;
26763 - MG 699 - New Zealand;
1947
27918 - MA 580 (mortiser) - UK;
29157 - PKA 969 - UK;
1948
30171 - LS 1925 (router) - UK;
30253 - PKA 994 - UK;
31145 - RD 694 - New Zealand;
1949
34218 - MA 853 (mortiser) - UK;
34664 - RS 1047 (lathe) - UK;
35284 - RE 668 (thicknesser) - Canada;
1950
35723 - PK 1202 - UK;
35836 - WS240 (pattern mill) - Australia;
35844 - RD 855 (buzzer) - UK;
35898 - RR 142 (buzzer) - New Zealand;
36021 - RTA 339 - New Zealand;
36376 - RT 357 - New Zealand;
36408 - RE 705 (thicknesser) - New Zealand;
36554 - PK 1231 - UK;
36572 - PKF 108 - Canada;
37023 - PK 1271 - USA;
37264 - PK 1277 - Australia;
37564 - RS 1126 (lathe) - UK;
37727 - CQ 237 - Australia;
38139 - MG 987 - New Zealand;
38305 - SQ 319 - New Zealand;
38458 - FD 799 (five head moulder) – New Zealand;
1951
38946 - CC 2388 - New Zealand;
38990 - RT 361 (lathe) - UK;
39677 - SQ 350 - New Zealand;
39926 - MF 939 - New Zealand;
39932 - MA 1119 - UK;
40404 - RTA 405 (lathe) - UK;
41072 - RS 1233 (RS 10 lathe) - Canada;
41075 - RS 1236 (RS 6 lathe) - Canada;
41145 - RTA 380 - New Zealand;
41376 - RM 2039 - Canada;
1952
41542 - WS267 (pattern mill) - first machine test no. for 1952
41563 - MA 1195 (morticer) - UK;
41587 - SP 610 - Australia;
41689 - PK 1437 - Canada;
420256 - PK 1445 - Canada;
42461 - PK 1451 - Canada;
42578 - RS 1291 (wood lathe) - Canada;
42636 - RB 886 (buzzer) - New Zealand;
42687 - CK 1646 - New Zealand;
42825 - RR 299 (buzzer) - New Zealand;
1953
45347 - LQ 674 - New Zealand;
45658 - SR 1578 - UK;
45723 - RS 1404 (lathe) - UK;
45839 - RS 1409 (lathe) - Australia;
46020 - RS 1415 (wood lathe) - Canada;
46212 - JY 498 (bobbin sander) - Canada;
46284 - NQ 312-S - Canada?;
1954
48966 - LM 1266 - UK;
49379 - PK 1702 - Canada;
49784 - PK 1718 - Canada;
50585 - FD 1125 - Canada?
1955
50716 - PK 1754 - New Zealand;
51434 - PK 1778 - Canada > USA;
51952 - RTA 440 (lathe) - UK;
52626 - WX 250 - Australia;
52712 - EQ 736 - New Zealand;
1956
53723 - PK 1863 - Canada;
53792 - RK 282 (thicknesser) – USA;
54000 - MA 1503 - Australia;
54256 - PK 1882 - USA;
54421 - PK 1887 - UK;
54425 - PK 1892 - Australia;
54477 - PK 1899 - Canada > USA;
54478 - PK 1900 - UK;
54521 - RM 2817 - New Zealand;
54580 - JY 569 (bobbin sander) - Canada;
54581 - CC 3253 (RAS) - Canada;
55049 - PK 1947 - Australia;
55228 - LQ 865 - Canada;
55670 - PK 1975 - Canada;
55676 - PK 1982 - UK;
1957
56040 - RS 3777 (RS8 lathe) - Canada;
56424 - EQ 1024 (spindle moulder) - UK;
56545- EQ 1016 - Denmark;
57045 - EQ 1061 (spindle moulder) - Denmark.
1958
59000 - FM 130 (buzzer/thicknesser) - UK;
1959
61036 - RZ 352 - Canada.
1960
63527 - JV 594 - USA;
62563 - EKA 1339 (5-head tenoner) - UK;
63449 - EQ 1747 - Australia.
Cheers, Vann.
(I thought I'd better post these, before I misplace my list - again )Last edited by Vann; 22nd June 2016 at 09:29 AM. Reason: Found misplaced lists - added 6 machines. 5 more added. Still another added. 2 more RS lathes added.
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9th July 2016, 12:51 PM #43
I've edited and added machines to the previous post about 5 times (added ~20 machines), but edits don't show up as unread (so interested watchers may not realise there are additions). This time I'll make it a new post.
Added machines in bold. Test number, followed by model & serial number, then country of residence...
Pre-1937
594 - MG 141 - UK;
1041 - RB 7231 - UK;
1313 - JY 107 (bobbin sander) – Australia;
1322 - DJ 361 (bandsaw) - United Kingdom;
1359 - MN 20 - United Kingdom;
1450 - DH 122 - UK;
2000 - RC 376 (buzzer) - New Zealand;
2085 - ME 239 – New Zealand;
2315 - NB 216 (knife grinder) - UK;
3197 - RS 133 – New Zealand (RIP);
3719 - MJ 244 (planer/thicknesser) - UK;
4417 - DO 241 - United Kingdom;
4501 - MA 263 - UK;
4616 - PKA 266 – UK;
4653 - EV 793 - UK;
4713 - DH 163 (bandsaw) – New Zealand;
4734 - MD 343 - UK;
4737 - PD 351 - UK;
4782 - EV 815 (spindle moulder) - UK;
4818 - PL 105 (dimension saw) – UK > USA
5029 - RTA 148 – UK;
5391 - MN 133 - Canada;
6281 - JV 139 (bobbin sander) - UK;
6556 - CC 847 (RAS) - UK;
6759 - KH 253 - UK;
6827 - MD 464 - UK;
7336 - EPA 646 (spindle moulder) - New Zealand;
7665 - ME 513 (mortiser) - Australia;
7671 - RS 115 – UK;
7784 - SOA 350 - UK.
1937
8446 - MJ 413 – UK;
9067 - PKA 390 – Australia;
9335 - RBA 183 (buzzer) – UK;
1938
9510 - MA 137 (morticer) - UK;
9650 - PKA 405 – Australia;
9783 - PKA 412 - UK.
1939
11454 - RU 161 (lathe) - UK;
11455 - CC 1059 - New Zealand;
11704 - LSA 592 (Router) - UK;
1940
14371 - MS 212 (saw) - United Kingdom;
14594 - PKA 554 - Ireland;
14979 - EUV 164 - UK;
15111 - RDA 441 (buzzer) – Australia;
1941
17093 - PKA 607 - UK;
17392 - PKA 613 - UK;
1942
18695 - PKA 643 - New Zealand;
18929 - MA 482 - UK;
1944
22583 - PKA 725 - Scotland > Canada;
22749 - RS 712 (lathe) - South Africa;
1945
24538 - REA 315 (24" thicknesser) - UK;
24671 - PKA 785 - Australia;
24965 - MA 490 (mortiser) - UK;
25031 - PKA 800 - New Zealand;
27390 - MA 563 – UK;
1946
26657 - LQA 415 - USA;
26763 - MG 699 - New Zealand;
1947
27918 - MA 580 (mortiser) - UK;
29157 - PKA 969 - UK;
1948
30171 - LS 1925 (router) - UK;
30253 - PKA 994 - UK;
31145 - RD 694 - New Zealand;
1949
34218 - MA 853 (mortiser) - UK;
34664 - RS 1047 (lathe) - UK;
34832 - PK 1154 (saw) - New Zealand;
35284 - RE 668 (thicknesser) - Canada;
1950
35723 - PK 1202 - UK;
35836 - WS 240 (pattern mill) - Australia;
35844 - RD 855 (buzzer) - UK;
35898 - RR 142 (buzzer) - New Zealand;
36021 - RTA 339 - New Zealand;
36376 - RT 357 - New Zealand;
36408 - RE 705 (thicknesser) - New Zealand;
36554 - PK 1231 - UK;
36572 - PKF 108 - Canada;
37023 - PK 1271 - USA;
37264 - PK 1277 - Australia;
37564 - RS 1126 (lathe) - UK;
37727 - CQ 237 - Australia;
38139 - MG 987 - New Zealand;
38305 - SQ 319 - New Zealand;
38458 - FD 799 (five head moulder) – New Zealand;
1951
38946 - CC 2388 - New Zealand;
38990 - RT 361 (lathe) - UK;
39677 - SQ 350 - New Zealand;
39926 - MF 939 - New Zealand;
39932 - MA 1119 - UK;
40404 - RTA 405 (lathe) - UK;
41072 - RS 1233 (RS 10 lathe) - Canada;
41075 - RS 1236 (RS 6 lathe) - Canada;
41145 - RTA 380 - New Zealand;
41376 - RM 2039 - Canada;
1952
41542 - WS 267 (pattern mill) - first machine test no. for 1952
41563 - MA 1195 (morticer) - UK;
41587 - SP 610 - Australia;
41689 - PK 1437 - Canada;
420256 - PK 1445 - Canada;
42461 - PK 1451 - Canada;
42578 - RS 1291 (wood lathe) - Canada;
42636 - RB 886 (buzzer) - New Zealand;
42687 - CK 1646 - New Zealand;
42825 - RR 299 (buzzer) - New Zealand;
1953
45347 - LQ 674 - New Zealand;
45658 - SR 1578 - UK;
45723 - RS 1404 (lathe) - UK;
45839 - RS 1409 (lathe) - Australia;
46020 - RS 1415 (wood lathe) - Canada;
46212 - JY 498 (bobbin sander) - Canada;
46284 - NQ 312-S - Canada?;
1954
48966 - LM 1266 - UK;
49379 - PK 1702 - Canada;
49784 - PK 1718 - Canada;
50149 - RX 107 (30" thicknesser) - United Kingdom;
50585 - FD 1125 - Canada?
1955
50716 - PK 1754 - New Zealand;
51434 - PK 1778 - Canada > USA;
51952 - RTA 440 (lathe) - UK;
52626 - WX 250 - Australia;
52712 - EQ 736 - New Zealand;
1956
53575 - RZ 213 (buzzer) - New Zealand;
53723 - PK 1863 - Canada;
53792 - RK 282 (thicknesser) – USA;
54000 - MA 1503 - Australia;
54256 - PK 1882 - USA;
54421 - PK 1887 - UK;
54425 - PK 1892 - Australia;
54477 - PK 1899 - Canada > USA;
54478 - PK 1900 - UK;
54521 - RM 2817 - New Zealand;
54580 - JY 569 (bobbin sander) - Canada;
54581 - CC 3253 (RAS) - Canada;
55049 - PK 1947 - Australia;
55228 - LQ 865 - Canada;
55670 - PK 1975 - Canada;
55676 - PK 1982 - UK;
1957
56040 - RS 1777 (RS8 lathe) - Canada;
56424 - EQ 1024 (spindle moulder) - UK;
56545 - EQ 1016 - Denmark;
57045 - EQ 1061 (spindle moulder) - Denmark.
1958
59000 - FM 130 (buzzer/thicknesser) - UK;
1959
61036 - RZ 352 - Canada.
1960
63527 - JV 594 - USA;
62563 - EKA 1339 (5-head tenoner) - UK;
63449 - EQ 1747 - Australia.
Cheers, Vann.Last edited by Vann; 3rd August 2016 at 10:55 PM. Reason: Photos added. MN20, DJ361, RX107 & REA315 added. RS1777 corrected (was 3777)
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There was a theory floated by one or two of the more extreme Wadkinites that the model no's on machines weren't actually an accurate record of the numbers made of any model. That for instance my WS mill which is numbered WS 240 was only the really no 140, that for some magical reason the first 100 was a marketing ploy. This was similar to the idea that the test date no's contained the date of manufacture. Obviously that has been exposed a while back.
So there is an old Wadkin planer on UK ebay at the moment that is MN 20, with a test no of 1359.
No hidden marketing ploy of starting at 100 to make your product look more successful.
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2nd August 2016, 06:35 AM #45
I think after they made the most ugliest wadkin ever produced they went to the marketing scheme of 100 God knows they needed it on this one . Not sure how much information can be traded off with Wadkin & company tags as we don't know any test number information on them. I've often wondered if only the main model in a family started at 100 and units with long tables ,special order ,custom made were not given single numbers that later were given letters under Wadkin Ltd ? One thing that the 100 number system does do is allow the development of Proto types that don't make it market . It appears that their strategy of development was a constant nit picking of components in the development of models in a range .
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