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  1. #61
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    Cool

    one more Vann and more speculation and facts.




    594 - MG 141 - UK;

    1041 - RB 7231 - UK;
    1097- AX 282
    1313 - JY 107 (bobbin sander) – Australia;
    1322 - DJ 361 (bandsaw) - United Kingdom;
    1359 - MN 20 - United Kingdom;
    1450 - DH 122 - UK;

    so far total machines are 1450

    141
    231
    287
    107
    361
    20
    122
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    1,269 87.5 % of total machines at only 7 modles
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    1450

    not looking good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    so no modle

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    no millers ad 1916 claim 200



    not looking good at all
    All tools can be used as hammers

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    Entertaining but proves nothing.
    Fact
    There are machines with a number less than 100.
    Fact
    There are no records at all of when or how Wadkin started their machine numbering or Test numbering.

    Conclusion
    Your argument is pure speculation and there is no way to prove it especially as the existence of MN 20 is a fact.

    Fact
    Arthur Fueges owns a Wadkin PL which is the tilt table predecessor to the PK, they overlapped for a while, using your system his would only be the 5th PL manufactured but by that time there was over 166 PKA's made. That doesn't make sense at all.

    not looking good at all
    Have fun,
    Alli

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    Time for an update:

    Added machines in bold. Test number, followed by model & serial number, then country of residence...

    Pre-1937
    594 - MG 141 - UK;
    1041 - RB 7231 - UK;
    1313 - JY 107 (bobbin sander) – Australia;
    1322 - DJ 361 (bandsaw) - United Kingdom;
    1359 - MN 20 - United Kingdom;
    1450 - DH 122 - UK;
    2000 - RC 376 (buzzer) - New Zealand;
    2085 - ME 239 – New Zealand;
    2315 - NB 216 (knife grinder) - UK;
    2725 - DN 169 - Australia;
    3197 - RS 133 – New Zealand (RIP);
    3719 - MJ 244 (planer/thicknesser) - UK;
    4417 - DO 241 - United Kingdom;
    4501 - MA 263 - UK;
    4616 - PKA 266 – UK;
    4653 - EV 793 - UK;
    4713 - DH 163 (bandsaw) – New Zealand;
    4734 - MD 343 - UK;
    4737 - PD 351 - UK;
    4782 - EV 815 (spindle moulder) - UK;
    4818 - PL 105 (dimension saw) – UK > USA
    5029 - RTA 148 – UK;
    5391 - MN 133 - Canada;
    6281 - JV 139 (bobbin sander) - UK;
    6556 - CC 847 (RAS) - UK;
    6759 - KH 253 - UK;
    6827 - MD 464 - UK;
    7336 - EPA 646 (spindle moulder) - New Zealand;
    7665 - ME 513 (mortiser) - Australia;
    7671 - RS 115 – UK;
    7784 - SOA 350 - UK.

    1937
    8446 - MJ 413 – UK;
    9067 - PKA 390 – Australia;
    9335 - RBA 183 (buzzer) – UK;

    1938
    9510 - MA 137 (morticer) - UK;
    9650 - PKA 405 – Australia;
    9783 - PKA 412 - UK;
    10166 - EKA 386 - Australia.

    1939
    11454 - RU 161 (lathe) - UK;
    11455 - CC 1059 - New Zealand;
    11704 - LSA 592 (Router) - UK;

    1940
    14371 - MS 212 (saw) - United Kingdom;
    14594 - PKA 554 - Ireland;
    14979 - EUV 164 - UK;
    15111 - RDA 441 (buzzer) – Australia;

    1941
    17093 - PKA 607 - UK;
    17392 - PKA 613 - UK;

    1942

    18695 - PKA 643 - New Zealand;
    18929 - MA 482 - UK;

    1943
    19917 - EPA 1218 (spindle moulder) - United Kingdom;

    1944
    22583 - PKA 725 - Scotland > Canada;
    22749 - RS 712 (lathe) - South Africa;
    23242 - RMA 917 (under & over) - New Zealand;

    1945
    24538 - REA 315 (24" thicknesser) - UK;
    24671 - PKA 785 - Australia;
    24965 - MA 490 (mortiser) - UK;
    25031 - PKA 800 - New Zealand;
    27390 - MA 563 – UK;

    1946
    26657 - LQA 415 - USA;
    26763 - MG 699 - New Zealand;
    27476 - RD 595 - United Kingdom;

    1947
    27918 - MA 580 (mortiser) - UK;
    29157 - PKA 969 - UK;

    1948
    30171 - LS 1925 (router) - UK;
    30253 - PKA 994 - UK;
    31145 - RD 694 - New Zealand;
    31435 - RE 485 (buzzer) - New Zealand;

    1949
    34218 - MA 853 (mortiser) - UK;
    34664 - RS 1047 (lathe) - UK;
    34832 - PK 1154 (saw) - New Zealand;
    35284 - RE 668 (thicknesser) - Canada;
    35301 - RB 734 (buzzer) - New Zealand;

    1950
    35723 - PK 1202 - UK;
    35836 - WS 240 (pattern mill) - Australia;
    35844 - RD 855 (buzzer) - UK;
    35898 - RR 142 (buzzer) - New Zealand;
    36021 - RTA 339 - New Zealand;
    36376 - RT 357 - New Zealand;
    36408 - RE 705 (thicknesser) - New Zealand;
    36554 - PK 1231 - UK;
    36572 - PKF 108 - Canada;
    37023 - PK 1271 - USA;
    37264 - PK 1277 - Australia;
    37564 - RS 1126 (lathe) - UK;
    37727 - CQ 237 - Australia;
    38139 - MG 987 - New Zealand;
    38305 - SQ 319 - New Zealand;
    38458 - FD 799 (five head moulder) – New Zealand;

    1951
    38946 - CC 2388 - New Zealand;
    38990 - RT 361 (lathe) - UK;
    39677 - SQ 350 - New Zealand;
    39926 - MF 939 - New Zealand;
    39932 - MA 1119 - UK;
    40404 - RTA 405 (lathe) - UK;
    41072 - RS 1233 (RS 10 lathe) - Canada;
    41075 - RS 1236 (RS 6 lathe) - Canada;
    41145 - RTA 380 - New Zealand;
    41376 - RM 2039 - Canada;

    1952
    41542 - WS 267 (pattern mill) - first machine test no. for 1952
    41563 - MA 1195 (morticer) - UK;
    41587 - SP 610 - Australia;
    41689 - PK 1437 - Canada;
    420256 - PK 1445 - Canada;
    42324 - LA 372 (drill press) - United Kingdom;
    42461 - PK 1451 - Canada;
    42578 - RS 1291 (wood lathe) - Canada;
    42636 - RB 886 (buzzer) - New Zealand;
    42687 - CK 1646 - New Zealand;
    42825 - RR 299 (buzzer) - New Zealand;
    44455 - RJ 1259 - Australia;

    1953
    45347 - LQ 674 - New Zealand;
    45658 - SR 1578 - UK;
    45723 - RS 1404 (lathe) - UK;
    45839 - RS 1409 (lathe) - Australia;
    46020 - RS 1415 (wood lathe) - Canada;
    46212 - JY 498 (bobbin sander) - Canada;
    46284 - NQ 312-S - Canada?;

    1954
    48966 - LM 1266 - UK;
    49057 - MA 1381 - Australia;
    49379 - PK 1702 - Canada;
    49784 - PK 1718 - Canada;
    50149 - RX 107 (30" thicknesser) - United Kingdom;
    50585 - FD 1125 - Canada?

    1955
    50716 - PK 1754 - New Zealand;
    50923 - EQ 572 - New Zealand;
    51434 - PK 1778 - Canada > USA;
    51952 - RTA 440 (lathe) - UK;
    52626 - WX 250 - Australia;
    52712 - EQ 736 - New Zealand;

    1956
    53575 - RZ 213 (buzzer) - New Zealand;
    53723 - PK 1863 - Canada;
    53792 - RK 282 (thicknesser) – USA;
    54000 - MA 1503 - Australia;
    54256 - PK 1882 - USA;
    54421 - PK 1887 - UK;
    54425 - PK 1892 - Australia;
    54477 - PK 1899 - Canada > USA;
    54478 - PK 1900 - UK;
    54521 - RM 2817 - New Zealand;
    54580 - JY 569 (bobbin sander) - Canada;
    54581 - CC 3253 (RAS) - Canada;
    54621 - EQ 871 - Australia;
    55049 - PK 1947 - Australia;
    55228 - LQ 865 - Canada;
    55576 - CC 3292 (RAS) - New Zealand;
    55670 - PK 1975 - Canada;
    55676 - PK 1982 - UK;

    1957
    56040 - RS 1777 (RS8 lathe) - Canada;
    56424 - EQ 1024 (spindle moulder) - UK;
    56545 - EQ 1016 - Denmark;
    56837 - EQ 1050 - United Kingdom;
    57045 - EQ 1061 (spindle moulder) - United Kingdom.

    1958
    59000 - FM 130 (buzzer/thicknesser) - UK;

    1959
    61036 - RZ 352 - Canada.

    1960
    62563 - EKA 1339 (5-head tenoner) - UK;
    63449 - EQ 1747 - Australia;
    63527 - JV 594 - USA.

    Cheers, Vann.
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    Default Bump.

    14 more Waddies added since 13th August.

    Cheers, Vann.
    Last edited by Vann; 6th September 2016 at 08:15 PM. Reason: Now 14 more Wadkins (was 11)
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    Not sure if you've seen it but there's an EQ 871 on machines4u at the moment.



    https://www.machines4u.com.au/view/a...oulder/291904/

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    I just saw these advertised on Gumtree Sydney today. A few Wadkin labels and switches. I'm unsure what they came off.
    Vintage Industrial Switches Badges | Other Antiques, Art & Collectables | Gumtree Australia Wollongong Area - Woonona | 1120669511

    Stewie

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    Some in depth research here. Quite a read. I assume if I happened to have a Wadkin amongst all my cast iron this would be an appropriate place to post a pic.

    Dave TTC
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    Dave. Certainly a pic of the tag would be most appreciated. Chuck in a pic of the machine as well if you like.

    Bueller and Stewie, thanks for the links. Tag photos, and machine numbers added to post 63.

    Cheers, Vann.
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    I like that stop switch on the gumtree add. I don't suppose anyone would be willing to get it for me and post it

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    Im close by. If you confirm you want them ill contact the seller and see if i can arrange to pick them up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amrjon View Post
    Im close by. If you confirm you want them ill contact the seller and see if i can arrange to pick them up.
    Amrjon. Go ahead and arrange to buy them. I'll guarantee Wallace (and if he backs out I'll take them). I sometimes communicate with wallace offline, and I feel sure he'll want them.

    Do you want me to Paypal you $20 in case wallace doesn't see this for a while (it's bed time in the UK)?

    Cheers, Vann.
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    Amrjon I want them, thanks very much for the offer.

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    Hi. Ive sent the seller a message. Havnt heard back yet but Ill let you know and we can sort out getting them to you from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amrjon View Post
    Hi. Ive sent the seller a message. Havnt heard back yet but Ill let you know and we can sort out getting them to you from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallace1973 View Post
    Amrjon I want them, thanks very much for the offer.
    Mark,

    I think I have already purchased them, I contacted the guy last night by txt and he is arranging to post them to me (I say think, because it wouldn't be the first time I have been gazumped with a sale on Gumtree, and it nearly happened once with my Barker Bandsaw when I foolishly posted on the forum that I had bought it, before I handed over the cash).

    I have been looking for an on/off switch for my JY Bobbin sander (has a plastic switch at the moment), and I figured I could make up a nice control panel with that stop switch and reset switch, but let me know if your need is greater, I can keep looking if need be (that of cause is assuming the deal goes through and I don't end up getting guzumped).

    Cheers,

    Camo

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    Probably explains why I haven't had a a reply. Looks like i won't, or it will be just to tell me its sold, but I was kind of looking forward to having a browse over all his other 'junk' if I dropped in there.

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