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    Default HELP getting new antique bandsaw into my workshop (Northern Sydney)

    I've just agreed to buy this bandsaw (brand unknown and somewhat 'modified' by previous owners. It's about 2.4 metres high and weighs about 500kg.

    I can get it to my place by trailer, but getting it safely into my cellar workshop may need some assistance.

    Is anyone on the North Shore (I'm at Lindfield) able to assist - I will be taking delivery next weekend, but It doesn't have to be put in place then. I have an engine block crane and some dollies to assist with lifting and moving, but if you have some other helpful devices, I welcome all suggestions.

    TIA
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    I can’t make your photo work.
    Im a bit of a Luddite with my iPad.
    I do have experience moving stuff but have usually had large bandsaws delivered by a machinery mover as my entrance doorway is not tall enough, so they have to be slung at an angle to fit.
    I do have a cumalong and my son gave me a Warn winch wot you power with a battery drill.
    Also have slings and shackles.
    I suggest you take both wheels off and the motor and table.
    The table is a must as I’ve seen a few broken tilt mechanisms due to a bump whilst moving.
    My son and I picked up a Wadkin disc and bobbin using the cumalong and a car trailer.
    It was a ton, lifted it off using a timber reinforced c channel in the annex then rolled into position with bits of pipe.
    H.
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    Not sure of your access, if it has a ramp or stairs.
    Perhaps something like this would help STAIR CLIMBER - 500KG TRACK for Rent - Kennards Hire Note capacity may not be sufficient for your machine unless you can get a more accurate weight.

    Other things you could do would be to remove parts to reduce weight such as the table, and perhaps the motor.

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    Go and buy 4 or 5 peices of 2inch galvanised pipe(or similar) and a couple of crowbars, once it’s on the pipes roll it on them and use the bars to steer it, as it rolls off one pipe, get another set of hands to then put that roller back under the forward end and so on. My old man and I have moved some really big machines like this over the years. Like the previous poster said though, pull as much off it as you can, and get the crane truck as close as you can to where you want to install it.
    Out of interest, what do you intend to do with such a big saw? It’s a monster.
    I’m PM my number, apparently I am available to come and help, see you then 😳

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    Thanks for those hints.
    I’d already decided that the table had to come off and you’re probably right about the motor and wheels too - I can move them in the wheel barrow.
    The door is an issue for me too, but if I take the guard/covers off as well as the wheels, it will likely go thru vertically sitting on the dolly, with a few gnats dicks to spare. Otherwise I’ll dangle it horizontally from the engine crane on a couple of slings
    Reminds me of that Bernard Cribbens Song, Right said Fred
    Cheers

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    If it’s on a hard surface, the advantage of rolling it on the pipes is you usually don’t have to take anything off, which is the way we have done many times.

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    Here's another link which may show the beast

    The problem is that there a few single steps along the way, so pipes alone won't be possible.
    Cheers

    Jeremy
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    It will want to be a stout engine crane because they rapidly lose lift capacity when the jib is extended.
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    That is one loverly olde bandsaw. I can't pick the brand 'though I've seen saws like that (2nd photo) before.

    Can't help with moving it, but echo what others have said - take the table off before it leaves the current premises. The weak point on bandsaws is the trunnion under the table, and even a strop across the table, combined with a good bump in the road, will snap a trunnion casting.

    And of course we all like photos - especially when you take the covers off the wheels. Bandsaws always look better naked (shame about H&S), and it may help with identification.

    Here's how I moved mine Preston Bandsaw

    Good luck with your move.

    Cheers, Vann.
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    Probably way to late and its in . ??

    How did it go ?


    What I like to use when something this big has to be moved off trailer and across different surfaces like grass or dirt to get to workshop is square hollow section 50 x 50 steel .

    Two bits laid down like train track and given a squirt of diesel oil . Have another two ready to move onto . Shift with a bar or just push and it slides if all is kept clean .

    I was doing this with some lengths at 6 Meters some at 3 Meters.

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    Thanks for that Rob

    The move will be next weekend and that idea sounds really good.
    Cheers

    Jeremy
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    OMG! I'm in LOVE!

    What a find!

    Riverbuilder is spot on correct with the pipe and crowbars. A mate and I moved a safe once that was left in an office block we rented for a new biz. It was 6 foot tall and 4 to each side. It was outrageously heavy.

    Using the bars and pipe we moved it across carpet to a new spot. Didn't even shatter a single vertebra or pop one tendon

    I dont think the engine hoist will work, too heavy.

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    TWO HUNDRED BUX !!!!!

    Thats outrageous!

    Large band saw | Miscellaneous Goods | Gumtree Australia Manly Area - Brookvale | 1238538229

    You MUST show us pictures of it restored
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    I was just at Helensburgh Men's Shed helping to plan their dust system and they showed me a brand new unused spindle moulder with a power feed on it that someone gave them because they were in the right place at the right time. The band saw is a steal but the spindle moulder is something else altogether. Sorry to go off topic but I had to tell someone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodPixel View Post
    I don't think the engine hoist will work, too heavy.
    The problem with engine hoists is their load rating really relies on getting the wheels/arms underneath or either side of the load. They are virtually useless if the load has to hang outside these arms. Then to lower the load down a star well requires the wheels/arms have to be fully supported inside ether stair well as well so unless serious supporting mechanisms are employed to support the arms above the stair well, then . . . . . . .

    I would really be handy to see photos of said stairs.

    One of the problems with removing the motor is it then may then be overly top heavy so I'd say if you remove the motor it will be definitely safer to remove at least the top wheel.

    Great find but would hate for you to break it.

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