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    Default Things you are missing on your machine, that you would like people to look out for

    Hey all,

    I got a message from a forum member in the UK the other day, asking if I was looking for a specific accessory for the Stenner, something he may have come across as part of his search for something for himself. I was really pleased and grateful that he had thought about me, and was willing to try and help source an item that I may need to completely restore my machine.

    It got me thinking, the reality is, most machines don’t come complete, and a lot of the parts we are searching for that are missing from a machine, you aren’t going to find listed on an auction site etc. It might be as big as a fence, or as small as a bolt or locking lever, and it’s the kind of thing that makes the difference between a complete restoration, and something that looks similar, but isn’t quite right.

    Now I know the forum has it’s “Market Place”, but the things I am talking about are items that most people wouldn’t know what it is, or what machine it goes on. They might be something others might see when they are collecting a machine that they could ask about, if only they knew someone needed one. Things like this need a lot of luck to find, and many eyes.

    Yes you would have already bought it up in the post you did when you restored your machine, but perhaps no one could help then, and you would like to bring it up again to jog people’s memories and perhaps remind people you are still looking.

    So to start off (completely unselfishly), here are 3 items I have been looking for, and had no luck so far:

    Wadkin JTA Universal Swivel Fence:



    Stenner ABM quadrant


    (haha, you know it’s a long shot when you can’t even provide a photograph of one)

    Stenner Mitre Gauge

    That one I can’t even identify, and my hope is to find a mitre gauge of similar size and substance (nice big cast iron), I would be replacing the mitre bar, so one off any machine would work, just looking for a similar era and of suitable size to match the saw.

    Now I realise that I haven’t picked the easiest or necessarily the cheapest items to start the ball rolling, (and I know that postage could be costly, and I would obviously expect to cover the person financially for any expense and time to assist), but with a bit of hope, and a lot of luck, someone might stumble across what I am looking for, at a time when they don’t want it for themselves.

    Now tell me what you are looking for, so I can keep my eyes open

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    Default Woodfast Hyco and Wadkin parts

    Like the way your thinking Camo...unfortunately I can't help with any of the parts you're after, but I will jump on the bandwagon...

    I'm looking for.....

    Old style spoked handwheel for Woodfast/Hyco lathe tailstock (I have a newer style solid wheel for trade if required)
    handwheel.jpg

    Old style handwheel (item 10) and cap (item 8) for Woodfast or Hyco scroll saw (jig saw)
    handle and cap.jpghyco scroll saw.jpg

    Belt table for Wadkin BGY sander

    Table.jpg

    Regards
    John
    Last edited by jcge; 14th February 2014 at 09:27 AM. Reason: details...

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    Camos, what a brilliant idea!!!
    As you have said its easier to locate an article with more eyes on the lookout.
    Could I add a Protractor fence guide for an SCM SI 15WF Panel Saw. As pictured it is a saw that wouldn't be out of place in a kitchen manufacturers workshop. The Protractor Fence/Guide goes on the travelling table so you can cut angles on the board. This machine, I think has had a few owners so the Accessories have gotten lost over time. Its some thing you only use occasionally but boy its handy.
    This Protractor has attached to it a telescopic fence with a stop so you can cut repeatedly pieces to a pre-set length.
    Thanks for taking the time to look
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    Just do it!

    Kind regards Rod

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    You have started something here camoz. This forum has always been full of really helpfull people so this thread can now be the go to place to look for hard to find stuff.
    Regards
    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by orraloon View Post
    You have started something here camoz. This forum has always been full of really helpfull people so this thread can now be the go to place to look for hard to find stuff.
    Regards
    John
    John,

    My hope was to kind of make it a thread that everyone who wants to help, and needs help (and lets face it on this forum thats pretty much everyone), can have a bit of a look at every now and again, and then when they are picking up a machine, or in one of those time capsule type locations, they might see something and think, "I am sure someone was looking for one of those".

    I will now have a quick glance through this post before and after I go hunting, and obviously I will ask, and if it is a give away item, I will grab it straight away, and if it is something the guy might sell, I will get an idea on price and a contact number to pass on to that forum member.

    If I find something I have been looking for, I will post that I have found it, so people know I am no longer looking. I would probably recommend (if available) showing a photo of what you are looking for (as some of these items will be difficult to identify without an image, and it is probably easier for people to remember).

    Anyway, not sure if it will catch on, but at this stage, I will be keeping my eye out for the items already listed. First one to find an item for another member wins a prize

    Cheers,

    Camo

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcge View Post
    Old style handwheel (item 10) and cap (item 8) for Woodfast or Hyco scroll saw (jig saw)
    handle and cap.jpghyco scroll saw.jpg
    John
    There are at least 3 versions of the handwheel - the drawing above (late), the picture (early), mine I guess dated between these (the same version as Camo's), so lots of choice! The picture of the Hyco shows a handwheel identical to that on the Walker-Turner 1959 parts list - you might source one from US. As you are in Sydney, feel free to have a look at mine in Epping. The machine is complete and works; with some trepidation, I am about to pull down for cleaning, removal of surface rust, adjust pulleys, and hopefully get back together.

    Cheers
    Peter

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    Default Hyco scrool saw

    Thanks for the information Peter - I wasn't aware of the 3rd type of handwheel. Good luck with your cleanup / rebuild. My saw has been waiting for some attention now for about 2 years...(and counting). And thankyou for your kind offer to take a look at your machine. I'll keep it in mind as I (hopefully) get closer to addressing the missing bit on my saw. A good suggestion to look at the US (BOYD on OWWM) as the parts are small, plenty of WT models around, and postage shouldn't break the bank.

    Thanks and regards,
    John

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    Default Robland K26 Fences

    Great idea guys! Will certainly keep an eye on this thread. I just bought a Robland K26 Combination machine, which came without fences. I obviously need some, original or new aftermarket ones would be great to know about.
    Thanks in advance

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    Default Camoz pic of mitre gauge.

    Cam,
    I couldn't find the Barker gauge but this Taiwanese beauty is yours if you want it.
    You will have to pick up and included is a box of assorted catalogues I no longer need,
    amongst them are ridgeway and other Pom and Italian ones Jack from Austral gave me.
    Were you at the TTTG tool sale?
    I sold heaps but still have abut 30 moulding planes and a similar number of turning tools
    which I will try in For Sale here.
    John'
    I don't have the BGY bits you need spare but mine is complete and you are welcome to come
    over and copy it if you like.
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    Jimcracks for the rich and/or wealthy. (aka GKB '88)

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    Quote Originally Posted by clear out View Post
    Cam,
    I couldn't find the Barker gauge but this Taiwanese beauty is yours if you want it.
    You will have to pick up and included is a box of assorted catalogues I no longer need,
    amongst them are ridgeway and other Pom and Italian ones Jack from Austral gave me.
    Were you at the TTTG tool sale?
    I sold heaps but still have abut 30 moulding planes and a similar number of turning tools
    which I will try in For Sale here.
    John'
    I don't have the BGY bits you need spare but mine is complete and you are welcome to come
    over and copy it if you like.
    H.
    Henry,

    Just sent you a PM, very excited!!

    Cheers,

    Camo

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    Quote Originally Posted by camoz View Post
    Henry,

    Just sent you a PM, very excited!!

    Cheers,

    Camo
    So now are you going to be distracted from the True Path of Stenner Purity there Cam?
    Or is this just going to be a temporary stop gap?

    Nice to see that you've found something that might just work for you!

    Have fun,
    Alli

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allison74 View Post
    So now are you going to be distracted from the True Path of Stenner Purity there Cam?
    Or is this just going to be a temporary stop gap?

    Nice to see that you've found something that might just work for you!

    Have fun,
    Alli
    Haha Alli,

    Firstly welcome aboard, how's the Pickles going, much progress? Well I have actually cheated and looked over on OWWM, but I thought it might encourage you to start a sister post, for any Aussie guys who don't get over to that forum, it is a saw worth seeing (not as good as the Stenner, obviously, but still a good patternmakers saw).

    Alli, I have a very big advantage with the Stenner, very little documentation. This means that I can pretty much claim anything about it without anyone being able to challenge me (or if they do, it means they have to provide me with information I don't have, like a picture of the gauge or image from a catalogue, which means I win either way). So having seen the picture Henry has posted, I am 99% certain that this is a direct replica of the original Stenner gauge, but stand ready to be corrected, by anyone with a Stenner ABM catalogue.......anyone......please someone show me a Stenner ABM catalogue.

    Seriously though Alli, I am very thankful to Henry for this offer, I have cast a wide net so far looking for original parts (forums and Gumtree adverts, Australia and England). It may not be original or necessary period, but it looks like a cracker mitre gauge and a good size, so I am glad Henry is considering parting with it. It really has become a matter of necessity, as the Stenner is now my main saw.

    Cheers,

    Camo

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    Hi Cam,
    I think that gauge will work really well for my saw but would look totally out of place on your Stenner, I think you should really reconsider it. While you are doing so i'll look after it for you!

    I managed to get a lot of the interior pulled out, not that there is much compared to your Stenner, very simple, I think it's older. I put up some more pics on the other place. Maybe I'll start a thread here as well. Would that be kosher do you think?

    Alli

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allison74 View Post
    Hi Cam,
    I think that gauge will work really well for my saw but would look totally out of place on your Stenner, I think you should really reconsider it. While you are doing so i'll look after it for you!

    I managed to get a lot of the interior pulled out, not that there is much compared to your Stenner, very simple, I think it's older. I put up some more pics on the other place. Maybe I'll start a thread here as well. Would that be kosher do you think?

    Alli
    Alli,

    It's a restoration being done in Australia, it has to be kosher.

    Cheers,

    Camo

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    Default Thank you Rob (auscab)

    Just a little update on an item in my search list....

    I received a PM from forum member Rob (auscab) letting me know of a lathe (complete) that had the old style tailstock handwheel I have been searching for....and I managed to snag it (the whole lathe) for a great price. Thank you Rob - I really appreciate that you sent me notification via PM, rather than via a broadcast. I have no doubt I would not have picked it up for the same money if it been posted to the ebay thread.

    The lathe also has an interesting (to me at least) badge, featuring the Woodfast and Hyco logo's together. And I've never seen that before.
    Woodfast Hyco badge.jpg

    Regards,
    John

    edit...unfortunately I don't seem to be able to edit my original post to show that the part I have been looking for has been found...
    Last edited by jcge; 7th March 2014 at 01:00 PM. Reason: edit...and added photo

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