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Thread: Pem vintage Scroll saw ?????????
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13th November 2021, 06:59 PM #1
Pem vintage Scroll saw ?????????
Picked this little scroll saw up today.
Price was too good to refuse.
So now I’m after any information, a manual would be fantastic, but I feel I may be dreaming there.
It all seems to run ok, is quite quiet, not to keen on the Green paint, but can live with that for a bit just[emoji6].
It came with a crappy old blade, but that broke in half first time I turned it on, tho that’s not a problem have a few spare.
Anyone know much about these.
Cheers Matt.
It’s Pem too not Pam [emoji20]
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14th November 2021, 09:19 AM #2
Gday Matt
Looks like a good find.
Check this thread out, may lead to something.
PE McManus Scroll Saw
Good luck
Keith
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14th November 2021, 01:59 PM #3SENIOR MEMBER
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Good find Matt, love that good old stuff.
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16th November 2021, 02:52 PM #4
Doesn't seem to be many of these left. As far as I can see they were only made in 1946/47 and that the first number is the serial number, the second is the month of manufacture and the last number is the year. They were marketed as a jigsaw. If the pulley on the saw is original it will be stamped. I have two of these, one with the original cast Iron base and cast alloy belt cover. It seems the original colour was black however I did find remnants of green paint on the belt cover. not sure if it was all green or just the ribs painted that colour. The saw that is complete is disassembled and in process of being restored. Not sure if they were always used as I found it... but it had a small piece of bandsaw blade rather than a scrollsaw blade. I am thinking of putting a metal blade in it and set it up for metal work.
By the way PE McManus also made a small bench saw.
PE McManus Saw Bench 0002-4.jpgPE McManus Scroll Saw 424-2-47-4.jpg
Saw Bench Jigsaw with base and belt guard
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16th November 2021, 03:03 PM #5
Also Matt... check the gearbox... Both mine were full of crappy old grease...... I am pretty sure they would have been full of oil.
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16th November 2021, 05:59 PM #6
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17th November 2021, 06:56 AM #7GOLD MEMBER
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Nice find Matt. What are your sheetmetal skills like? The guard on Gaza's saw is pretty snazzy
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17th November 2021, 10:15 AM #8
Matt (and Gazza)
That is a rather nice looking bit of gear. P.E. McManus seems to have been a bit reclusive. A quick search showed nothing at all. You might try just looking at images for "vintage scroll saw" and seen if something comes up there.
I am very envious of that machine as it looks solid and I can see many a saw handle being cut out on that. What HP is the motor?
Regards
PaulBushmiller;
"Power tends to corrupt. Absolute power corrupts, absolutely!"
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17th November 2021, 11:43 AM #9
MA,
My Sheet metal skills could, but as much as it would be cool, the realisation that it’s just not going to get done, is the truth.
Tho I “may” make a new table for it, because the only way to remove the table is to remove the blade at both ends.
An I can’t bring my self to Cut a slot in the cast iron one.
Cheers Matt.
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17th November 2021, 11:47 AM #10
Paul,
I’m not actually sure of the Motor horsepower
But it really doesn’t need a lot I think it’s really only designed for cutting 5/6 mm , tho I suspect the saw was sold with out a motor,leaving the buyer to find there own, this saw is is just mounted on a piece of thick Chip board with the motor behind it works well but is as Ugly as Sin.
Cheers Matt.
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17th November 2021, 11:53 AM #11
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17th November 2021, 05:48 PM #12
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17th November 2021, 06:22 PM #13
Mine has a 1/3hp Pope that has been mounted with a dodgy weld job.... was thinking about putting a small 3ph motor with a VFD so I can vary the speed for metal cutting etc.
Below is a list of owners and serial numbers that I have gathered over the years. Not sure if they are still with the same people or not.
Just looking at these numbers I suspect they made some prior to 1946 and like many engineering firms that were involved in the war effort, they branched out into machinery manufacture to fill the void once the war was over. I did find a few adds from around the 1946/1947 period that were advertising this machine as a Jigsaw... but other than that there is very little info on the company or what they produced.Number Month Year Owner 174 3 46 Leighton Shea 304 10 46 Gaza58 424 2 47 Gaza58 476 6 47 Jerryatrick 483 6 47 Simplicity 513 8 47 unknown
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