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16th August 2019, 10:53 PM #1
On The Road Again.
"On the road again
Goin' places that I've never been
Seein' things that I may never see again
And I can't wait to get on the road again"… (thanks Willie).
The misses and I decided to visit a warmer clime for a week (the winter was getting to her), so we headed for Tonga. The flight left from Auckland, but rather than book a connecting flight from Wellington, I decided to drive to Auckland a few days early to see family, but also to do a little rust hunting.
Instead of SH1, I elected to take the secondary route, which would take me through Te Kuitì, as I’d heard there was a gentleman there with a Wadkin RB 9” buzzer, like mine.
I cold called at Steven’s premises and asked if I could have a look around. No 9” Wadkin buzzer, but he had a couple of 12” buzzers by Smith. Steven was happy to show me around, and very soon I was like a kid in a lolly shop.
Wadkin RM planer/thicknesser;
Wadkin DR bandsaw;
Wadkin CK radial arm saw x 3;
Wadkin PK dimension saw;
Wadkin LQ recessor;
Wadkin JTA disc & bobbin sander;
Wadkin setting stand x 2
Smith 12” buzzer x 2;
Smith chain mortiser;
Sagar spindle moulder.
There were also a few Scandinavian machines including a four-sider.
I didn't take pictures of all of them (several were under tarps), but here are some:
Wadkin RM 2456, test 47549 of 1953
RM1.jpg
RM2.jpg
wRM 2456 47549 NZ.jpg
Steven says until recently there were four 24" and one 16" RMs in Te Kuiti.
Wadkin DRA 533, test 10790 of 1938.
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DRA2.jpg DRA3.jpg
wDRA 533 10790 NZ.jpg
Wadkin PK 1472, test 43339 of 1952
PK1.jpg
PK2.jpg
wPK 1472 43339 NZ.jpg
Wadkin JTA 477, test 36890 of 1950;
JTA1.jpg
JTA2.jpg
wJTA 477 36890 NZ.jpg
(to be continued)
Cheers, Vann.Last edited by Vann; 17th August 2019 at 10:44 AM. Reason: JTA added.
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16th August 2019, 11:10 PM #2China
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Lovely stuff, is that guard on the buzzer stock or a custom made job.
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17th August 2019, 09:33 AM #3
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17th August 2019, 10:31 AM #4
(continued from first post)
Where was I? Ahh yes, done the Wadkins. Now for some other old English machines:
Smith 12” buzzer;
Sm1.jpg
Sm2.jpg
One thing Steven pointed out is the mechanics of the table rise and fall function. Most English buzzers use the wedge system which, on a machine with long tables, results in a massive overhang. Later machines, and American machines use a parallelogram system. On this Smith there are two wedges - resulting in good support without the overhang.
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The inner wedge is located to the left above the oval tag. The outer wedge is visible to the right above the end of the base casting. The second Smith buzzer under a tarpaulin. It's an older version of the same machine, using the same double-wedge system.
Smith chain mortiser;
Sm3.jpg
I don't know whether this machine also has a chisel head.
Sagar spindle moulder;
Sag3.jpg
Sag2.jpg
Sag1.jpg
At his premises Steven mainly produces mouldings these days (skirting, architraves, weatherboards, etc.) but professes to like (and collect) old machines. He'd fit in well here.
Needless to say, I was a little late leaving Te Kuiti...
Part 2 to come.
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I like the extension for the crown guard support on the pk
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18th August 2019, 06:18 PM #6
Part 2 (a).
The following day (Friday) I had arranged to meet a semi-retired boatbuilder at his boatyard in Auckland. I had first heard of this gentleman on the Canadian forum nearly a year ago, and had contacted him then asking if he’d mind if I visited, but each of my trips to Auckland had coincided with a trip of his, and so it took until now to meet up.
Chris says he started buying old machinery upon semi-retirement in 1987, IIRC. He has a variety of both wood and metal working machinery, and i have to admit I was a little overwhelmed - and so I concentrated on the wood machines.
He let me have a look around. I took photos of these woodworking machines (my apologies for the less-than-sharp photos):
Sagar jig or scroll saw;
Robinson bandsaw;
Robinson dimension saw;
White PR thicknesser;
Wilson buzzer;
L Power (USA) shipsaw;
Wadkin LQ;
Wadkin JTA;
Wadkin MG mortiser;
the almost obligatory (in New Zealand) Wadkin CK;
Wadkin WW.
Sagar jig or scroll saw;
Sagc1.jpg
Sagc2.jpg
Sagc3.jpg
Robinson bandsaw;
Robbs1.jpg
Robbs2.jpg
Robinson dimension saw;
Robinson1.jpg
Robinson2.jpg
White PR thicknesser;
White1.jpg
White2.jpg
White3.jpg
Wilson buzzer;
Wilson2.jpg
Wilson1.jpg
L Power shipsaw;
Power1.jpg
Power2.jpg
Power3.jpg
(to be continued - Wadkins next post)
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18th August 2019, 08:12 PM #7
That shipsaw is amazing.David Upfill Brown has a yank one as I remember down the coast but these are rare as.Love the pit.I do have a White cattledog so I’ll see what I can dig up.Thanks heaps for the pics. This area was getting a bit slow but I’m blown away with your latest trip.H.
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19th August 2019, 01:30 AM #8
Four Inches?
Yes, although it looks like he's only gained about 4". But 4" is 4" and if you need that much then why not.
PK2.jpg
Looks like the arm is long enough that he could have got another 1½". I wonder at what point the ripping fence has to be removed?
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19th August 2019, 12:11 PM #9
Geez you really know how to make a guy drool
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Interesting, all the Wadkins I have come across have a sliding bridge guard but not telescopic
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19th August 2019, 06:00 PM #11
Ship Saw.
This is a shipsaw I really like the look of - from the restoration series of the sailing yacht Tally Ho.
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There are a number of shots of the saw in action throughout the series.
Yes, a lot of the regulars have defected to Instagram - I like nether the format, nor the company (it's owned by Facebook). I'm staying here.
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19th August 2019, 06:09 PM #12
Telescopic Guard.
You had me worried - but I found this in an undated early catalogue (also shown on the RM in the 1936 & 1957 Wadkin catalogues on Vintage Machinery):
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Cheers, Vann.Last edited by Vann; 20th August 2019 at 02:04 AM. Reason: Illustration changed.
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20th August 2019, 07:30 PM #13
Part 2 (b).
And now for some Wadkins.
Wadkin CK 2083 radial arm saw, test 51268 of 1955;
CKc1.jpg
CKc2.jpg
wCK 2083 51268 NZ.jpg
Wadkin LQ 1299 recessor, test 79228 of 1969;
LQc2.jpg
LQc1.jpg
wLQ 1299 79228 NZ.jpg
Wadkin JTA disc & bobbin sander;
I couldn't find a tag on this machine, at the time. But while editing the photos I see it's on the back of the machine (3rd photo below) .
The combination of spoked and webbed aluminium handwheels suggests it's about the same age at the LQ recessor (above)
JTAc1.jpg
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Wadkin MG 722 mortiser, test 20152 of 1943;
MGc2.jpg
MGc1.jpg
CKc3.jpg
wMG 722 28152 NZ.jpg
And the pièce de résistance, Wadkin WW 620 mechanical woodworker, test 3414 of 1925 .
This machine originates from the murky beginnings of Wadkin & Co. around the turn of last century, although this specimen dates to around 1925.
WWc1.jpg
WWc2.jpg
wWW 620 3414 NZ.jpg
Clear Out (of this forum) knew the whereabouts of one in Sydney that went into storage in the early 1990s, but has since disappeared. No one on any of the woodworking forums has seen one in recent years, and so this one may be unique. Wadkin pattern mill c1911. and Wadkin Mechanical Woodworker 1897. - Canadian Woodworking and Home Improvement Forum
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I see the LQ has the additional rotary table. I read in some wadkin literature that these had to be requested when ordering a machine and the factory would not retrofit them.
That WW is thing of beauty, I would love to see it in original paint and all prettied up
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