Thread: Wadkin chisel and chain mortiser FB market place

Sorry, I just did a copy & paste and on my pc the pics looked great, I didn't realize no one else could see them, that's a shame because I thought it was a quick way of getting big pic's posted.

So I will repost the pic's from my 2 earlier posts.

ME Drawing.jpg

First Rob's 1928 catalogue illustration, from this I see the pull down levers being smaller and sharing the same shaft from the main casting, which is not the case.

ME Tag position.jpg

This pic shows the Tag position for an ME and shows the pull down levers were longer and had separate shafts, so different from the illustration shown in the 1928 catalogue.

ME Tag from FB.jpg

Drum Roll, there you go Vann So based on your earlier comments (Leicester on second line by itself) is this a 1927 ME?

I could see you first cut and paste pics.
The catalog is NOT 1928.

Edited in Red. 4/19/24 5.15pm .

My Mistake.

Originally Posted by auscab

I could see you first cut and paste pics.
The catalog is 1928.

Thanks, not sure why some Copy & Paste work while others don't.

I corrected the year to 1928

Originally Posted by Camelot

Thanks, not sure why some Copy & Paste work while others don't.

I corrected the year to 1928

Nigel.
I just checked as I’m finally in the location of the catalog.
Sorry . It’s a 1924 catalog .

IMG_6386.jpeg

Rob .

edit
A bit of a thread on the catalog here.

Wadkin 1924 Catalogue pictures .

Hey Vann

That tag is off my EQ in Melbourne Australia.

Also, I'll have a few more tags for you shortly.

Cheers
Andy

The tag on my ME is on the RHS just above the handles similar to the one in pic.

Mines ME 513.

Originally Posted by Camelot

...there you go Vann So based on your earlier comments (Leicester on second line by itself) is this a 1927 ME?

Yes it looks like it - almost certainly.

However, I would need to ask my Wadkin contact to be 100% sure.

Cheers, John.

Originally Posted by Vann

Yes it looks like it - almost certainly.

However, I would need to ask my Wadkin contact to be 100% sure.

Cheers, John.

Does your contact have Test Record books going back to the 1920 like he had for my 1954 EX?

Originally Posted by ab1

The tag on my ME is on the RHS just above the handles similar to the one in pic.

Mines ME 513.

Hi Andy,

It's the Test Number we need to date your ME, Wadkin used a pre printed book of numbers and the number from the page where they Tested the machine was recorded on the TAG

Here's an example of my 1954 EX

EX Wadkin Test Report.jpg Tag.jpg

Cheers Nigel

[QUOTE=Camelot;2332665]Hi Andy,

It's the Test Number we need to date your ME, Wadkin used a pre printed book of numbers and the number from the page where they Tested the machine was recorded on the TAG

Test number 7665.

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[QUOTE=ab1;2332696]

Originally Posted by Camelot

Hi Andy,

It's the Test Number we need to date your ME, Wadkin used a pre printed book of numbers and the number from the page where they Tested the machine was recorded on the TAG

Test number 7665.

Screenshot_20240420_183617_Instagram1.jpg

Looking at the list of Test Numbers your ME is already listed, but unlike later years there isn't a defined start and end Test Number at the beginning or end of a year to give a clue which year yours was built but it seems to be either 1928 or 1929.

[QUOTE=Camelot;2332698]

Originally Posted by ab1

...unlike later years there isn't a defined start and end Test Number at the beginning or end of a year to give a clue which year yours was built but it seems to be either 1928 or 1929.

Well actually... I added 1929 to the database two weeks ago, and 1928 nine days ago.

1928 - tests 5601 to 6658; and
1929 - tests 6659 to 7773.

So test 7665 would have been carried out near the end of 1929 (likely end of November or early December).

And just out of interest, the last test for 1929 was ME 517 - four ME's (and 108 tests) later than Andy's ME 513.

Cheers, Vann.

Originally Posted by Camelot

Does your contact have Test Record books going back to the 1920...

I don't know how far back they go. I suspect 1923, which is the year Wadkin opened their Green Lane Works.

I have a sprinkling of test info back to 1923, and I'm slowly working backward (having added test ranges for 1929 and 1928 this month). But I'm also working forward (having confirmed 1970 not many months ago).

The dilemma is: should I ask for info towards the 1980s (where there is only one sequence), or should I work backwards toward 1923 (and beyond) where the sequence numbers overlap (and therefore can be confused)?

Cheers, Vann.

Originally Posted by Vann

I don't know how far back they go. I suspect 1923, which is the year Wadkin opened their Green Lane Works.

I have a sprinkling of test info back to 1923, and I'm slowly working backward (having added test ranges for 1929 and 1928 this month). But I'm also working forward (having confirmed 1970 not many months ago).

The dilemma is: should I ask for info towards the 1980s (where there is only one sequence), or should I work backwards toward 1923 (and beyond) where the sequence numbers overlap (and therefore can be confused)?
Cheers, Vann.

I think you should do the confusing backwards direction first where the machines are more interesting although you may not get many new Tags being offered due to commercial Woodworking Shop's scrapping them over the years for not meeting the ever changing H&S requirements, so a lot of these machines that are left will be in One Man Band Shops where employees welfare and thus H&S requirements don't come into play.

If you want any help on the less complicated 1970's forwards direction send me a PM, I would be happy to help in someway.

Cheers Nigel