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23rd June 2020, 10:10 AM #16SENIOR MEMBER
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Nice one Van!
I have a general question. How do you attache the flexi-conduit as circled below? Are these connectors something you can buy from eBay or Aliexpress etc?
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23rd June 2020, 10:31 AM #17
Both those connectors came with the saw. I de-rusted them and the steel conduit, and repainted them. I've not had to buy any but doubt they'd still be made - though who knows? The UK would be the place to search (eBay UK etc.)
The smaller one into the motor simply has a female thread that fits the spiral of the flexible conduit. The one out of the junction box uses two set screws to clamp the conduit - again with little lugs to grip the spiral grooves.
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23rd June 2020, 11:15 AM #18
You can still buy Metal Flex Conduit and fittings here in Australia... Not sure about imperial thread though. I have seen it at places like CNW. I am sure any of the electrical supply places would be able to help you out.
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23rd June 2020, 02:35 PM #19SENIOR MEMBER
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I did see some stuff on eBay and online at hefty prices. Alibaba seems to be well priced for this stuff:
Pa66 Stainless Liquid Tight Zinc Alloy Brass Hose Fitting Flexible Conduit Connector - Buy Zinc Alloy Waterproof,Straight Electrical Connector,Connector Product on Alibaba.com
Ouoro 12mm G3/8 Dgj Circlip Self Secured Union Zinc Alloy Connector Joint Fitting For Flexible Conduit - Buy Zinc Alloy Connector Joint Product on Alibaba.com
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16th November 2020, 07:54 PM #20
Another two CKs to add to the list.
CK 349 (test 5637 of 1936) - New Zealand - Wadkin & Co. tin tag (with Wadkin Ltd. "Manufactured in Eng..." tin tag);
CK 387 (test 6682 probably of 1936) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 514 (test 920x of 1937) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag (last digit of Test No. obscured);
CK 575 (test 10701 of 1938) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 778 (test 16792 of 1941) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 826 (test 21316 of 1943) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 862 (test 22326 of 1944) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 868 (test 22274 of 1944) - New Zealand;
CK 906 (test 23628 of 1945) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 910 (test 23632 of 1945) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 959 (test 24801 of 1945) - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 968 (test 24953 of 1945) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 977 (test 25398 of 1945) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 1011 (test 26563 of 1946) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag (RIP 2018);
CK 1035 (test 27145 of 1946) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 1086 (test 28338 of 1947) - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 1149 (test 29897 of 1948) – New Zealand;
CK 1152 (test 30100 of 1948) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 1181 (test 30310 of 1948) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 1185 (test 30314 of 1948) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 1268 (test 32264 of 1949) - New Zealand- Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 1371 (test 35269 of 1949) - New Zealand- Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 1384 (test 35634 of 1950) - Australia- Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 1417 (test 36260 of 1950) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 1460 (test 37501 of 1950) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 1476 (test 38385 of 1950) - New Zealand;
CK 1606 (test 41504 of 1951) - New Zealand;
CK 1634 (test 42522 of 1952) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
CK 1646 (test 42687 of 1952) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
CK 1648 (test 42680 of 1952) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
CK 1725 (test 45009 of 1953) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
CK 1778 (test 46032 of 1953) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
CK 1895 (test 48426 of 1954) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
CK 1913 (test 48716 of 1954) - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
CK 2000 (test 50260 of 1954) - Australia - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
CK 2026 (test 50541 of 1955) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
CK 2054 (test 50863 of 1955) - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
CK 2083 (test 51268 of 1955) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
CK 2095 (test 51427 of 1955) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
CK 2110 (test 51928 of 1955);
CK 2114 (test 51932 of 1955) - New Zealand>England - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
BCK 57160 (probably of 1957) - New Zealand - Wadkin-Bursgreen aluminium sheet tag;
BCK 57315 (test 57992 of ~1958) - New Zealand (RIP 2015).
CK 514.jpg wCK 959 24801 UK.jpg
Note that CK 514 has the open base frame - like CK 349 and CK 387.
CK 514b.jpg CK 514 of 1937.
Cheers, Vann.
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18th February 2021, 06:14 AM #21New Members
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Hello from Nelson NZ, I've just recently bought CK949, test 24569, Wadkin Ltd. Machine is generally in reasonably good order, but obviously hasn't been maintained for a long time. Expect bearings will need re-greasing, etc. There is a lot of play in the rise and fall mechanism in the vertical column. Any advise on servicing, acceptable oils and grease, etc, appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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18th February 2021, 05:43 PM #22
CK 949 - in sunny Nelson.
Hi Sparkyrock. Thanks for chiming in.
CK 949t.jpg
CK 949, test 24569, would date to 1945. Thanks for clarifying the Test Number (my best guess/decipher was 24668 ).
Some more pictures, stolen from the Trademe listing:
CK 949a.jpg
CK 949b.jpg
Looks to be mostly there and in reasonable condition. Shame the original switchgear has been replaced - but probably more electrically compliant as a result.
CK 949d.jpg
Nice to see the brass finger guard is there at the front of the blade flask. I could be wrong, but I think that brass knuckle guard (attached to the handle) should be rotated 90 degrees to protect your knuckles from the blade as well.
CK 949c.jpg
One of the ball lever handles should tighten that once you've finished adjusting the height.
I use Mobil DTE Heavy-Medium oil and Mobil XHP-222 grease for bearings - as the local Mobil agent contacted Aus for advise, and came back with these as modern equivalents to the Wadkin Grade L.4 oil and Wadkin grade L.6 grease (as specified in the Wadkin PK Operating and Maintenance Instructions).
I hope this helps.
Edit: your Trademe profile says you're in Auckland .
Cheers, Vann.Gatherer of rustyplanestools...
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29th March 2022, 05:44 PM #23
A Clone! A Forgery!!
Get a load of this non-Wadkin CK radial arm saw.
CKc1.jpg CKc2.jpg CKc6.jpg
Made in New Zealand by RA Hammersley Ltd of Christchurch.
CKc3.jpg
Motor by Flather & Co. Ltd. of Leeds, UK (never heard of them!)
CKc4.jpg CKc5.jpg
It's almost an exact replica of an early Wadkin CK like mine - with the open base. The main differences I can see are: 1) the motor and it's mounting, and 2) the position of the height adjusting wheel.
I wonder if they made many? After all, if you look at the locations of known CK saws (3 posts up) you'll see the vast majority were sold in New Zealand .
Cheers, Vann.Gatherer of rustyplanestools...
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30th March 2022, 09:07 PM #24
Time for an Update.
I have nine CK saws to add - bring the total to 52.
CK 324 (test 4843 of 1936) - United Kingdom - Wadkin & Co. cast tag;
CK 349 (test 5637 of 1936) - New Zealand - Wadkin & Co. tin tag (with Wadkin Ltd. "Manufactured in Eng..." tin tag);
CK 387 (test 6682 of 1937) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 514 (test 920x of 1938) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag (last digit of Test No. obscured);
CK 575 (test 10701 of 1939) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 778 (test 16792 of 1941) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 817 (test 19865 of 1943) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 826 (test 21316 of 1943) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 862 (test 22326 of 1944) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 868 (test 22274 of 1944) - New Zealand;
CK 906 (test 23628 of 1945) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 910 (test 23632 of 1945) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 949 (test 24568 of 1945) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 959 (test 24801 of 1945) - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 968 (test 24953 of 1945) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 977 (test 25398 of 1945) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 1011 (test 26563 of 1946) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag (RIP 2018);
CK 1035 (test 27145 of 1946) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 1086 (test 28338 of 1947) - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 1149 (test 29897 of 1948) – New Zealand;
CK 1152 (test 30100 of 1948) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 1170 (test 30196 of 1948) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 1181 (test 30310 of 1948) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 1185 (test 30314 of 1948) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 1268 (test 32264 of 1949) - New Zealand- Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 1301 (test 33676 of 1949) - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 1360 (test 35029 of 1949) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 1371 (test 35269 of 1949) - New Zealand- Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 1384 (test 35634 of 1950) - Australia- Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 1417 (test 36260 of 1950) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 1460 (test 37501 of 1950) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. tin tag;
CK 1476 (test 38385 of 1950) - New Zealand;
CK 1606 (test 41504 of 1951) - New Zealand;
CK 1634 (test 42522 of 1952) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
CK 1646 (test 42687 of 1952) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
CK 1648 (test 42680 of 1952) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
CK 1725 (test 45009 of 1953) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
CK 1740 (test 45277 of 1953) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
CK 1778 (test 46032 of 1953) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
CK 1895 (test 48426 of 1954) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
CK 1913 (test 48716 of 1954) - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
CK 2000 (test 50260 of 1954) - Australia - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
CK 2026 (test 50541 of 1955) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
CK 2054 (test 50863 of 1955) - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
CK 2083 (test 51268 of 1955) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
CK 2095 (test 51427 of 1955) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
CK 2110 (test 51928 of 1955);
CK 2114 (test 51932 of 1955) - New Zealand>England - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
CK 2161 (test 52844 of 1955) - New Zealand - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
CK 2223 (test 53887 of 1956) - United Kingdom - Wadkin Ltd. cast tag;
BCK 57160 (probably of 1957) - New Zealand - Wadkin-Bursgreen aluminium sheet tag;
BCK 57315 (test 57992 of ~1958) - New Zealand (RIP 2015).
United Kingdom - 7 machines;
Australia - 2 machines;
New Zealand - 42 machines.
Cheers, Vann.Gatherer of rustyplanestools...
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30th June 2022, 07:04 PM #25
Trenching Heads - pt.1.
Back in May, 2017, Auscab asked me to pick up some Wadkin-Bursgreen trenching heads for his BRA radial arm saw. Here are the parts I collected, photographed shortly before posting across the ditch.
CK1.jpg
That was 6 months before I acquired my Wadkin CK. Ever since I've been keeping an eye out for trenching heads for mine - but usually they go for more money than I'm prepared to pay (for something I don't actually have a use for). Both BRA and CK have 1" spindles.
I did manage to pick up a pair of these.
CKEG.jpg
But they're too big, the bore is 1 1/4" - and like bad girls, they've got no nickers.
Recently, while on holiday in the South Island, I was talking to a fellow Waddie and he "long term loaned" me his (he has a Wadkin CC which has an 1 1/4" spindle so they don't fit his).
I've been sharpening the knives and nickers - and felt it was appropriate to make a box to protect the sharpened edges.
I'd saved this shot of a box from the interweb.
CK3a.jpg
But decided to make mine wider - because I've attempted to standardise box sizes so that my boxes might stack better.
Here's the almost finished box with the almost sharp knives.
CK5.jpg CK4.jpg
Cheers for now, Vann.
PS. Is nickers spelt knickers when referring to tools?Gatherer of rustyplanestools...
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30th June 2022, 08:47 PM #26
Trenching Heads - pt.2.
I don't know about the Wadkin-Bursgreen BRA, or even the Wadkin CC, but the Wadkin CK uses a drive pin.
CK 30.jpg Drive pin threaded in to back flange.
CK 31.jpg The blade then goes over the drive pin.
CK 32.jpg Followed by the outer flange.
CK 33.jpg And finally the pin is hidden by the nut.
Plenty of people don't bother with a drive pin, but I had a hell of a job getting the blade off this old rusty CK (that I bought for parts).
RB 504.jpg
After I'd managed to get the nut undone half a turn on the rusty spindle the blade came loose. After that there was no way to prevent the spindle from rotating and it took many swear words over several weeks before I finally managed to get the nut and blade off. So I'm a believer in drive pins.
And they're necessary to keep the trenching heads 90 degrees apart.
CK 35.jpg Note the slotted end of pin peeking through the hole.
The drive pin in my CK measured ~6.7mm diameter. It was very sloppy in it's threaded hole. It turns out the thread is 5/16" BSW (~7.94mm). I decided I'd need to make some new drive pins.
They can't be too long as that would prevent the spindle nut from tightening. So I settled on making three drive pins:
- a short one for when using a saw blade;
- a long one for when using trenching heads with the maximum number of spacers; and
- an intermediate length pin.
Cheers for now, Vann.Gatherer of rustyplanestools...
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30th June 2022, 09:17 PM #27SENIOR MEMBER
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A couple of these went recently at an Auction up in Toowoomba a few months ago. I was thinking of throwing my hat in the ring for one but annoying the auctioneer had a matter of a couple of days as a window to clear out the joint and was during the week so could get there for pickup!
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30th June 2022, 09:21 PM #28
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1st July 2022, 10:06 AM #29SENIOR MEMBER
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Unfortunately not it was on Graysonline. They had about 12 Wadkin machines going, was very exciting to see all the kit. Most things went for a pretty high price as it caused a Wadkin frenzy!
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