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25th July 2018, 09:38 PM #31
Hi Vann, firstly, thank you for such an informative post, as you know l have one of these in parts and the information here will be invaluable for putting it back together.
As far as your switches are concerned l think your on the right track, l have a 90°angle bracket for my switch on the right hand side so it faces the operator
Melbourne Matty.
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15th August 2018, 04:29 PM #32
Ten Months Awaiting.
After ten months in storage, the LP made it home on Saturday evening.
aLP 50.jpg Nope, it only did the last 10km in that trailer - with insufficient air in the tyres .
Many thanks to a friend who went out of his way to collect it.
It'll be on that trailer for another 3 weeks until my son and I are both free on a weekend. In the meanwhile I'm lightening it a little. First I removed the non-OEM motor bracket. Then the table raise/lower "piston".
aLP 51.jpg aLP 52.jpg
The piston shaft is hollow, but was blocked with woodchips and shavings.
aLP 56.jpg aLP 57.jpg
Well in all those woodchips were two nuts, a screw, a washer, and (trumpets please) the missing grub screw. A small victory .
aLP 58.jpg
I also have managed to get the taper pin out of the foot pedal, and the foot pedal off. The spindle still has me stumped and the spindle counterweight won't come out unless I lay the machine on its side.
Cheers for now, Vann.Gatherer of rustyplanestools...
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15th August 2018, 08:39 PM #33
Great machine ! Cant wait to see it done up and hear what you think of it Vann .
Rob
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16th August 2018, 09:29 PM #34SENIOR MEMBER
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Did you manage to get the table column out, I tried on mine when I first got it but couldn't raise it enough with the head spindle in place.
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18th August 2018, 09:09 AM #35
Yes it came out with a bit of a fight, but not too much.
Mine may be different to yours, because of the four LPs known, unfortunately only mine does not appear to have the rotating table . I'm not sure how the rotation takes place on yours. Is there a turntable at the top of the column/piston, or does the rack slide on the column like a modern drill press table?
Anyway, assuming yours is similar to mine, there's nothing on the bottom to stop it coming out (just gravity). I'd already taken the side handwheel and mechanism off back in January. There was also a small casting at the top of the rack (held on by 2 bolts) to remove. Then it was just a matter of getting enough leverage under the column to lift and pack - there was sufficient friction to stop it dropping back after each lift. When I found the right spanner, the chuck came out easily, giving sufficient room to get the column out (the spindle was at it's lowest possible point and was lifted a little by the column over the last inch or two).
The whole assembly (column with table support, and rack) was fairly heavy, but manageable. I was able to pick it up and step down out of that trailer, then walk it the 30m to my workshop/garage without problem
aLP 52.jpg
aLP 59.jpg Bottom end of column and rack.
Cheers, Vann.Gatherer of rustyplanestools...
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18th August 2018, 08:13 PM #36SENIOR MEMBER
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I think mine is similar to the LQ where it has some round ways and you can slacken a clamp to rotate by hand
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20th August 2018, 01:21 PM #37
Spindle.
It's been a productive weekend. I got most of the spindle out (haven't yet figured out how to get the pulley section out of the top), disassembled and degreased.
aLP 60.jpg
Now to de-rust and repaint where applicable.
The bottom end bearing is a Hoffman marked M12 V3 on the outer race and MS12 V3 on the inner race. Interesting, because Matty found he had an RM10-MB self aligning bearing on his.
aLP 61.jpg
It feels to be in good condition, and might yet get re-used. I believe Wadkin frequently used Hoffman bearings, so this might be the original. I believe there are two smaller bearings at the top end.
Cheers, Vann.Gatherer of rustyplanestools...
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8th September 2018, 05:11 PM #38
Counterweight.
I managed to get the LP off the trailer by myself. I collapsed one of the pallets under the LP to lower it. After that I made a ramp out of a couple of 4” x 4” fence posts, then used a single pipe roller to inch it off the trailer and down the ramp onto the garage floor (with about 2” clearance under the door).
In a succession of lifts, first one end then the other, I removed all the timber that was bolted and screwed underneath.
Then last weekend I decided to tip the frame onto its side (with the help of my son) in order to get out the vertical counterweight that lurks inside the back column of the frame. It was awkward to get the pivot pins out – especially the one at the top where there is minimal clearance. It will be a sod to get that one back in.
LP 61.jpg
The counterweight is a link in the mechanism that allows the operator to lower the spindle via the foot pedal. It’s a solid length of ø2⅝” steel or iron bar, and weighs over 57lbs (26kg). Under all the sawdust stuck to it, it was black. It’s now red (just ‘cause I’ve got spare red paint).
LP 62.jpg LP 63a.jpg It goes waay up in there .
A lot of guys seem to paint the inside of their Wadkins red, though I’m sure it should be red oxide (a very brown red). Anyways, this should be black, so I can’t point the finger.
At the top end of the counterweight is this lever...
LP 65.jpg
...which pivots in the centre and is connected to the spindle housing at the front (RH) end. It, and the little “H” pivot casting are now in what I call “early Wadkin grey” – a much darker grey than the RAL 7011 used on more modern Wadkins (can 1936 on, be called modern?). Also derusted and repainted is the foot pedal. However, the foot pedal pivot shaft and the arm from the shaft to the counterweight are still stuck in the frame. Their removal will have to wait until it’s upright again.
LP 64.jpg
Cheers, VannGatherer of rustyplanestools...
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10th September 2018, 12:39 PM #39
Counterweight and Linkages.
The counterweight is now ready to go back into the frame, with the painting now finished and pins cleaned up. The pins have some wear, but this is not a precision linkage so I'll reuse them.
aLP 66.jpg
Here's how it all links together.
aLP 67.jpg
The whole assembly pivots on the "H" link (centre of top horizontal lever), and at the bottom (left-hand end of foot pedal). The vertical casting (top right-hand) is a sleeve that fits into the head of the frame and has the spindle fitted inside it.
The missing arm is still in the frame (below).
LP 64.jpg
The counterweight is connected at the fork in this arm (bottom - needs rotating ~80 degrees clockwise) and the footpedal connects to the shaft in the centre of this pikkie (other end) with a large taper pin.
Cheers, Vann.Gatherer of rustyplanestools...
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12th September 2018, 10:52 AM #40
Happy Birthday.
After plenty of wondering (and consulting a rare few old catalogues) I’d concluded that the LP was probably released about 1922, or 1929 (with the earlier date being the more likely). I’d also established that mine was not quite one of the first (that being obvious from the serial number anyway) as it is not to the original format – mine has the slightly larger table with a square bar (not the original round bar) across the front.
aLPt1.jpg Original table.
aLPt2.jpg Modified table - as fitted to my LP.
I’m now in possession of a copy of the test sheet for LP 410, which tells me mine was tested on 1st September, 1925 – so it celebrated it’s 93rd birthday just a week and a half ago.
LP 410 Test Sheet.jpg
This makes it my oldest (powered) machine - by 13 months (my RB buzzer dates to October, 1926). Nice .
Thanks Mr. Wilson.
Cheers, Vann.Gatherer of rustyplanestools...
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12th September 2018, 12:45 PM #41
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12th September 2018, 08:10 PM #42
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12th September 2018, 08:32 PM #43
Table Raise Mechanism.
While working on the linkage, I’ve also been working on the table raise/lower mechanism.
aLP26.jpg aLP25.jpg
All the parts, cleaned, de-rusted, and repainted.
aLP 68.jpg
The shaft for the gear wheel rides in steel bushes – each retained by a ¼” BSW grub screw. The grub screw is pointed and locates into a dimple in the bush.
aLP 69.jpg Grub screw before being driven home.
The gear wheel is retained on the shaft by a 1¼” long ♯3 taper pin. There's ~2mm side play between the gear wheel and it's housing. I'm sure I haven't lost a washer/spacer, but I'm not the first to take this machine apart. Leaving that much play spreads the wear on the steel gear teeth I suppose .
aLP 70.jpg aLP 71.jpg
The handwheel is retained on it’s shaft by a 2¾” long ♯5 taper pin.
There are two lubrication holes in the top of the housing. One has a brass cover and is for lubricating the screw/handwheel shaft. The other is open and is for lubricating the gears. I think I might make up a wooden bung for this one.
aLP 72.jpg
All assembled and waiting to be put back on the machine.
aLP23.jpg Before.
aLP 73.jpg After.
Cheers, Vann.
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12th September 2018, 08:58 PM #44
Looking very special Vann!!
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12th September 2018, 09:51 PM #45
Looking good Vann !!
Melbourne Matty.
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