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    Default Wadkin RS6 restoration

    Next on the list is a spontaneous purchase I made off facebook. A rough little RS6". It came from a master wheelwright in devon. Its missing its tool banjo which is going to hard to find. I had one in my stash but used it on another lathe a couple of months ago.


    It dates from 1948 which I was surprised at, I thought it would be older due to the window in the main casting.

    It was extended a bit

    For some reason the pins that hold the motor bracket were not in their right place, and had been hammered on.

    Its supposed to have a collar on this end.

    The pins will need some work

    To check the bearings you just grab hold of the spindle and lift it, if theirs any movement it needs bearings. This one does.

    A good sign of dodgy bearings is copious amounts of grease as that fixes everything.

    This is my home made tool for unscrewing the nut


    Then stick a long thing in the hole and hit with a hammer

    And voila, the other end cap comes off

    The stepped pulleys do not have a grub screw

    Then you have to pull the spindle with one hand and catch the stepped pulley with the other.


    I don't normally remove all of the existing paint but this is a bit nasty. I had a bad experience with a lathe I did a little while back. I spent along time prepping everything and got a horrible reaction when doing the top coat. This cost about 7O in wasted materials.

    To keep dust to a minimum I scraped everything off, it would be nice to have it shot blasted but its not an option. After an hour of scraping my elbows regretted my decision to remove everything. Tennis elbow and repetitive motions don't mix

    Then I had a bright idea to use my elcheapo carving machine. Works well but blunts quickly

    One of the bargains of the week was these, the company must of listed them incorrectly on ebay, with a 99p starting bid. I paid 1.7O for a box.


    Another Aldi special tool.

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    Wallace - I envy your long list of projects!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie_6ft View Post
    Wallace - I envy your long list of projects!
    My wife is getting tired of the scrap yard look so im going to try and get them done.

    A bit more done, as you can see the paint is a bit pants.

    Some of it was hard going and I had to resort to a hammer and chisel

    Then I got a bit carried away with the fettling









    The shed was a bit mucky afterwards

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    Beautiful work mate! What's up next?

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    MF morticer I think

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    A bit more done, There is a broken bolt in the headstock, this attaches the bed. It must of been really tightened to snap the head off a 5(8ths bolt. I tried a stud extractor pretty much knowing it wouldn't work. These things rarely do.

    Next I tried welding a nut on, this generally works but not this time. After 7 attempts I gave up

    Next a bit filler




    The screw for the offset turning was missing

    I got Mr Doubleboost off of that youtube to make a new one.

    Heres a clip of him doing it
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    Thanks.
    Need to fix bearing noise on mine and maybe repaint.
    All your pics have been helpful.
    Phil

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallace1973 View Post
    A bit more done, There is a broken bolt in the headstock, this attaches the bed. It must of been really tightened to snap the head off a 5(8ths bolt. I tried a stud extractor pretty much knowing it wouldn't work. These things rarely do.
    A mate of mine had a similar issue with a broken stud in the track frame of a dozer. The Caterpillar mechanic drilled the stud out with as large a drill as he could without damaging the housing. He then used a die grinder and carbide bit to further enlarge the hole in the stud until the tips of the housing thread were visible. From there he was able to pick the remaining thread of the stud out and clean up with a tap. It was his standard way of dealing with broken studs, done it many times. I haven't tried it yet but thought it was an idea worth remembering.
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    A bit more done, I got he bed filled and prepped

    I'm undecided what to do with the window at the top of the head stock. I could put some Perspex in or have the on off buttons mounted on a piece of metal

    Been working through a box of parts



    I use my little disc sander which has Velcro on to easily change the grits so touch up each flat on the bolts. Then polish


    Their was a nice dealers tag on the bed, if you wire wheeled this it would be ruined

    It looks similar to the union jubilee tags

    This is the outboard bearing cap, I've never come across a ring before

    Also I've never come across gaskets on the inboard side.

    The casting were a bit rough so I cleaned them up on the lathe

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    Everything got a splash of zinc primer followed by more filler


    made a bit shiny

    Then to the motor


    Once you take the pulley support of the end you must remember to knock the tapered pin out before attempting to take the stepped pulley off. Sometimes the pin is barely visible. I've heard of a few people sticking a puller on and pulling the lip off the pulley.
    This is the big end of the tapered pin.

    This is small end that you have to hit to get the pin out, you cant see it at all so I had to guess

    That's not seen a grease gun in a while



    Ready for bodge


    Sanded the pulley

    This lathe was missing its banjo and came with a fabricated one, so I'm going to use the one off my lathe and hopefully come across one to replace it.

    I painted this nearly 9 years ago hence the clown paint, I hope I've improved since then

    I've been asking around trying to find a tool carriage to put on this, then I remembered I got given a broken one off a dealer.
    This is off a very early RS lathe and is probably 9O years old



    Its missing some adjustable gibs so I thought I'd seek the help off Mr Doubleboost once more.

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    Your possibly aware of Chris Rundell who had a banjo casted:

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    Not sure what that would cost - but I am sure it's not very cost effective!

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    There’s a few going in Sydney.
    The cost to ship to Blighty would kill em.
    H
    Jimcracks for the rich and/or wealthy. (aka GKB '88)

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    A bit more, the broken part of cross slide is in the capable hands of Mr Boost, the gibbs are going to be done by his friend who can machine grind them to spec.
    Scraped and fettled. I only use scotchbrite and brake cleaner on the machined surfaces







    One thing I've noticed doing machines is cast iron is more resistant o rust and pitting than steel.


    I got offered a pretty cool lathe recently. A super 7 that's been stored for 25 years without been used. Its still got its shipping grease on it.

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    Not much to report, just sanding grunt work. I did try a new product which is great. Polyester spray filler. The only downside is you have about 25 mins to spray it and get the remnants out of the gun before it starts to cure. Its horrible to clean out the gun, no thinners I have would touch it. I believe acetone is supposed to work.



    It sands really easily and the finish is nice. I now need to remove all masking tape, sand and reapply
    more tape before a final primer coat.

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    That Myford Super 7 is a nifty little lathe - it's very sort after over here in Oz and fetches good money! Sounds like you have found a gem!

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