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    Quote Originally Posted by doug3030 View Post
    Thanks Matt, Here's a little something I'm thinking about at the moment.

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    I have one on the Great Wall of saw if you want to take some 3D inspiration.

    Cheers Matt,
    It’s staying on Saturday after you leave [emoji849].

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simplicity View Post
    I have one on the Great Wall of saw if you want to take some 3D inspiration.

    Cheers Matt,
    It’s staying on Saturday after you leave [emoji849].
    For the pic, I just laid the template over the existing handle, but when it becomes timber I want to move it forward about an inch so the end of the sawplate is about half way across the hand hole. I have a picture of what I want somewhere. I will try to find it tomorrow
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    Quote Originally Posted by doug3030 View Post
    For the pic, I just laid the template over the existing handle, but when it becomes timber I want to move it forward about an inch so the end of the sawplate is about half way across the hand hole. I have a picture of what I want somewhere. I will try to find it tomorrow
    Found it:

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    Doug

    You will have to modify the shape of the saw plate to accept the new handle, which as you have probably assessed gives more control and power. If you removed the Disston D8 handle you would see a curved plate. However I would suggest cutting at an angle to keep the plate in the timber. The curve is easy in the steel, but difficult with the kerf in wood. The Disston is also a "covertop," which means the blade does not reach the top of the handle: More problematic again.

    Really good project. What is the timber?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushmiller View Post
    You will have to modify the shape of the saw plate to accept the new handle, which as you have probably assessed gives more control and power. If you removed the Disston D8 handle you would see a curved plate. However I would suggest cutting at an angle to keep the plate in the timber. The curve is easy in the steel, but difficult with the kerf in wood. The Disston is also a "covertop," which means the blade does not reach the top of the handle: More problematic again.
    Been working on that:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushmiller View Post
    Really good project. What is the timber?
    Thanks. I hope to finish a couple of simpler backsaw handles first, but if I don't have at least 15 projects in the pipeline I feel lost.

    The backsaw handles are walnut, but I'm not sure I have enough left for the big ripsaw and crosscut saw. Possibly sheoak or rosewood.

    Early days yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doug3030 View Post


    The backsaw handles are walnut, but I'm not sure I have enough left for the big ripsaw and crosscut saw. Possibly sheoak or rosewood.

    Early days yet.
    Doug

    Nice timbers. Lucky you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushmiller View Post
    Nice timbers. Lucky you.
    Thanks - I like to attribute it to good planning and judgement rather than luck.
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    Doug you will also have to mindful of the original saw bolt holes, making sure the new ones don’t end up on the edges of the old ones.

    Cheers Matt,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simplicity View Post
    Doug you will also have to mindful of the original saw bolt holes, making sure the new ones don’t end up on the edges of the old ones.
    Got that thanks. Do you speak from personal experience there, Matt?
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    Quote Originally Posted by doug3030 View Post
    Got that thanks. Do you speak from personal experience there, Matt?
    No not yet [emoji6]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushmiller View Post
    You will have to modify the shape of the saw plate to accept the new handle, which as you have probably assessed gives more control and power. If you removed the Disston D8 handle you would see a curved plate. However I would suggest cutting at an angle to keep the plate in the timber. The curve is easy in the steel, but difficult with the kerf in wood. The Disston is also a "covertop," which means the blade does not reach the top of the handle: More problematic again
    Quote Originally Posted by Simplicity View Post
    Doug you will also have to mindful of the original saw bolt holes, making sure the new ones don’t end up on the edges of the old ones.
    Here is a pic of the sawplate with the template in the place the new handle will be and the old handle superimposed in its original position.

    20190201_171612.jpg

    As can be seen this will place the old holes well behind the new holes so that will not be a problem.

    I want to make sure that everyone understands that while I have a template of a D-8 handle, I am not necessarily trying to make a historical reproduction of a Disston saw. The sawplate I am using, while it is a Disston, it is not a D-8. As much as I have admired and appreciated Bushmiller's historical saw builds, that is not what I am about. All the saws I am planning to make are to be users. The interest in the thumbhole handle is to allow me to make allowances for my back problems by allowing me to do some of the work in the "two-handed-sitting-on-the-board-across-the-sawbenches" position. The differences in the sawplate geometry of the plate I am using and the D-8 plate may even require some adjustments in the hang angle or even stuff I haven't thought of yet. Since it is not a historical reconstruction it really does not bother me if the handle is not a covertop, but that sort of information is still of interest to me as I learn.

    I have sawplates and brass backs for four backsaws, with Blackburn handles all cut out on a bandsaw, plus Disston saws to rehandle and resharpen to what I want for the full-sized crosscut and rip saws. After that I will probably have sufficient left-over sawplate for a couple of small gents saws and some specialty items. Some parts of this project will be what I take to Matt's handle-making day. I have no idea what it will be yet.

    However I might just go and start a separate thread for the whole project before it takes over Matt's GTG thread and because it could become a valuable resource in its own right, so long as no "Large Outbuilding" comes along to interfere.
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    Doug,
    I have no problem you discussing your saw handle build here,I would go as far as encouraging it.



    Cheers Matt,

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    Shameless bump

    Anybody else interested

    Cheers Matt.

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    I would love to attend but alas, just too far away for the moment.

    However, as a gesture of good faith, if the only thing preventing anybody coming along is a suitable timber for the handle, make it known here or, if you prefer, PM me and I will post something off to Matt so it will be there there for the big day. No charge as I have some spare bits and pieces .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushmiller View Post
    I would love to attend but alas, just too far away for the moment.

    However, as a gesture of good faith, if the only thing preventing anybody coming along is a suitable timber for the handle, make it known here or, if you prefer, PM me and I will post something off to Matt so it will be there there for the big day. No charge as I have some spare bits and pieces .

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    Now that is outstanding generosity Mr Bushmilliar.
    Thank you very much.

    I can tell you folks, from personal experience Paul has some nice stuff.
    I know because I have two very nice pieces of timber waiting to be turned in to saw handles.


    Cheers Matt.

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