Thread: Friday lunch prattle

Busy day today. I can hopefully call in.

Can't be there today.

Regards
Paul

Sorry, not going to make it today - have to take the dog to the vet for his allergy shot.

Here's the video I referred to about the wooden full extension drawer slides. This guy has a lot of videos with a lot of clever things.

How To Make Wooden Full Extension Drawer Slides - Woodworking - YouTube

I want to make three rolling cabinets with drawers to fill in the wasted space under my metal lathe and mill.

I see a production line type of thing coming up for parts. Probably 20 to 24 drawers all up, 2 slides per drawer, so probably a production run of 50 drawer slides to allow for a few spare parts.

Pagie, I didn't get a chance to thank your missus for the hot chocolate. Please pass on my thanks.

I hope there wasn't too much sugar in it for you.

I won't be in today. I will be driving up the Hume Highway.

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This weeks topic is: A continued discussion from last week

As always it is great to catch up regardless.

Friday: Time: 12:00 - 12:40 AEST - or better Midday on the east coast, 11:30AM SA/NT, 9AM in WA, 1AM UTC and 8PM US Central (i think)
Yep that's lunchtime for some of us so bring a coffee and donut - breakfast for the west and evening meal time in the US


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Cheers
Phil

Sorry guys, I won't make today, can't talk at the moment.... i know that's a blessing

Cheers
Phil

This is the stroke sander that I think lance could have used: If he had one!

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The rails allow the job to move in and out of the machine and the rod with the black knob is manually pressed down from inside the belt and can be positioned anywhere along the belt as it can be slid along the long axis. Primarily they were intended for sanding doors and windows, but really any large job. It's a beast.

Regards
Paul

Pretty hard to collect the dust.

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This weeks topic is: The end of the year and any woodworking adventures planned. I do if i ever hit order on the online cart

As always it is great to catch up regardless.

Friday: Time: 12:00 - 12:40 AEST - or better Midday on the east coast, 11:30AM SA/NT, 9AM in WA, 1AM UTC and 8PM US Central (i think)
Yep that's lunchtime for some of us so bring a coffee and donut - breakfast for the west and evening meal time in the US


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Lance

Following on from the last "prattle" there was the issue you had of flattening a wide board for a friend: A board too wide to go through a thicknesser or a drum sander and with added difficulty as the strips of timber did not have the grain all going in the same direction. Really, to my mind, a hand held belt sander may be the only practical solution. Having said that, it occurs to me as I type that if you could secure the board firmly to the floor (improvised strips of wood anchored to walls ?), you may be able to use one of those large drum style floor sanders, which can be hired from the likes of Bunnings.

However, belt sanders like these would be the go otherwise:

These are the two original AEG sanders with my own on the left from the early eighties and the newer version on the right from which I had planned to make one good one from two

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However, I needed to use a belt sander before I got to rebuild them and bought a low level (price wise) Makita which is remarkably similar except that it is 940W compared to 1010W for the AEGs. I can't quite remember the cost but I think it was in the vicinity of $150. Makita do make more expensive models if you wish, but I was happy enough with the Makita I purchased.

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My issue was the raised section of the cheese board, which after gluing up in three pieces, needed to be flattened on the under side. The centre raised divider presented the issue. I could have packed it up with thin battens and run it through the thicknesser, but I chose to use the belt sander. Really for this purpose 100mm wide I think is preferable over the 75mm versions, but this will depend on your primary uses down the track. You do have to remember to keep the machine moving reasonably quickly as if left in one spot it will gouge a depression in no time. Although I was not timing, I think it would have taken less than five minutes.

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On to the subject of rasps. These are the rasps and files I bought at Bunnings (still in their wrappers as I had forgotten I was going to test them out on the saw handle I recently made.) I have not yet tried the saw file. The Harp rasp is double sided flat and half round. The Bahco rasp has very coarse grain on one side but a metal file on the other. A strange combination!

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These are two Liogiers on the left (hand stitched 6grain) and a Tome Fetiera hand stitched rasp on the right

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These are the handle maker's rasps, curved with the safe back as they are only stitched on one side. I have to say I only have minimal use for the two flat versions.

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And some testing which may not be that easy to see so I will give my impressions after the pix.

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Each cut was made with ten strokes of the file

From right to left are the Bahco, Hart, Tome Fetiera (who I believe make the Bahco files and rasps) hand stitched, 175mm Liogier, 250mm Liogier. Then Hart again round side, Tome Fetiera round side and Liogier 175mm round side.

The Bahco rasp is extremely coarse and was very fast. Good value but a pity there is a metal file on the reverse side instead of a smooth rasp. The Hart, which also had a very coarse grain, was hampered by the teeth not going to the edge of the file and this acted as a limiter. Pity, as initially it cuts well and then is unable to cut further. Interestingly the half round side did not suffer from this problem and cut quite acceptably. The Tome Fetiera, which has been lightly used and the two Liogier rasps, which have been heavily used on very hard and demanding woods, cut just as well as the brand new rasp from Bahco and better than the Harp. This is more notable bearing in mind that although 6 grain is quite coarse, it is not as coarse as either the Bahco or the Harp rasps. Thefrench rasps were notably smoother to use, but I believe this is a function of the grain size.

I think the price differential between Liogier and Bahco is in the order of five or even six to one! I do really like Liogier, and although I have never used the Auriou I am led to believe there is not much to choose between these brands. I have just visited the prices and they are...jaw dropping! Forget the ratios I quoted above.

Regards
Paul

I will be away tomorrow, so unfortunately won't be able to join in on the Christmas Eve prattle.

Have a good chat tomorrow, and I wish you all a wonderful Christmas.

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If I don't, feel free to start without me.

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