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    Quote Originally Posted by doug3030 View Post
    Matt, it may have slipped your mind but this Sunday is the day that Australia goes from three easy to understand timezones to five confusing ones.

    Did you mean 7.30 AEST or AEDST?

    This small detail might not affect a lot of us but Paul might have to come in from his shed an hour earlier.
    Doug, it completely utterly slipped my mind,so thanks for pointing it out.[emoji106][emoji106]

    I will now appoint you offical time maker thingy me bob thing.

    Cheers Matt.



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    Quote Originally Posted by doug3030 View Post
    Matt, it may have slipped your mind but this Sunday is the day that Australia goes from three easy to understand timezones to five confusing ones.

    Did you mean 7.30 AEST or AEDST?

    This small detail might not affect a lot of us but Paul might have to come in from his shed an hour earlier.
    Thanks Doug

    I would have surely missed that!

    Regards
    Paul
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    A reminder for those joining tonight to check the Time issue thingy because I’ve got know idea.

    The clocks moved about last night apparently!!!!

    Start time is 7.30pm in Melbourne and what ever time that is in your little universe.

    Cheers Matt.

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    So do we have a topic ?
    I am learning, slowley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pagie View Post
    So do we have a topic ?
    Yes we do, have you not been following along.

    You will love the Topic.

    Cheers Matt.

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    The NRL Grand final kicks off at 6:30 pm in Queensland tonight. This is now coincidentally the same time as the 7:30 Sunday chat in Victoria.

    While I am not a fan of either of the competing teams, I will probably be watching most of the match. If both teams play true to their form displayed throughout the season it's likely to be an 80 minute rolling bloodbath. Nothing better than watching two teams of dirty players giving each other the floggings they both richly deserve.

    If I drop in to the chat it may be briefly.
    I got sick of sitting around doing nothing - so I took up meditation.

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    So I am not accused of 'saying' just because Matt showed us his WMC style saw handle, here is a very similar handle. It is called the 'Holden' pattern. It is in effect a thumbhole pattern as it allowsa second hand to grip the handle.

    It is destined for a 30" Simonds Docking saw.

    P1070812 (Medium).JPG

    Mine is at about the same stage of finish as Matt's handle.

    Regards
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    Last nights chat was another highly successful chat about stuff that at the time seemed extremely important, yet now with a Coffee in hand I can’t remember.
    Tho Bob seems to be coming at WIP.

    But this Book was mentioned by at least one member.

    The Art of Fine Tools Amazon.com

    Also Paul was attempting to get dips on me regarding a Saw handle he was boasting about.



    Some how some pictures of a saw handle I’m working on just popped up [emoji851][emoji851].

    Cheers Matt

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        Last nights chat was another highly successful chat about stuff that at the time seemed extremely important
    yet now with a Coffee in hand I can’t remember.
        
    Tho Bob seems to be coming at WIP

    Last night I sought help in finding a suitable diamond file to sharpen my slightly abused high carbon steel pruning saw. Matt suggested that I need a Diamond feather edge File and messaged me with link to search. A quick search this morning revealed an option for a Diamond Rhombic File for $16.89 AUD including delivery,available ex Brisbane. with delivery expected between 26 and 29 October 2021. The geometry of the file appears to be identical to a feather edge file -I have emailed the vendor for clarification

    For the benefit of those who did not attend last night's Skype meeting, I am well aware that I could probably buy a new blade for half the price - but this has now become a personal challenge to firstly get the necessary equipment - I will need to make a suitable vice, for example - and then to learn how to sharpen the existing saw.

    It will be interesting to see what effect the covid restrictions will have on the Australia Post delivery times.

    Cheers
    Bob

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    Matt

    Your handle has progressed a little since last night. .

    It is probably more "inspired" by WMC and Holden than a replica. You have done the same as i with my first handle in this style: Added a lambs tongue. WMC didn't feel that was necessary .

    I really like the lambs tongue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldgreybeard View Post
    [PHP]

    For the benefit of those who did not attend last night's Skype meeting, I am well aware that I could probably buy a new blade for half the price - but this has now become a personal challenge to firstly get the necessary equipment - I will need to make a suitable vice, for example - and then to learn how to sharpen the existing saw.

    Cheers
    Bob
    Yesterday I emailed Ames Australia seeking clarification as to the type of file and sharpening procedure for my Cyclone Pole pruner/saw. The replies have confirmed the saw blade is indeed high carbon steel and requires a diamond file. Their suggested sharpening procedure is also attached.

    Bob Young (Phone Number: 04000000, Email: xxxxxxxx.com) wrote:
    4 Oct 2021, 9:58 am AEDT

    I have a older model Cyclone pole pruning saw ( Saw and secateurs are separate parts). The saw need sharpening. Can you confirm that the saw blade is high carbon steel and I need a diamond feather file. Thank you

    Chi (ZENDESK AMES Australasia)


    Hello Bob,
    Thank you for your enquiry.
    In order for me to identify the product you have, can you please send through some photos of the whole product, the specific saw blade you are needing to sharpen and if possible, the product code (this should be on the barcode)?
    I will seek advice from our product team and look into assisting you further from there.
    Kind regards,
    Chi

    Bob Young
    Hello Chi
    3 photos are attached. Unfortunately there is no barcode and I don’t have any original packaging or the like. I am in Mt Waverley, 3149 so could bring the tool to your office if this would help

    IMG_20211004_161942.jpgIMG_20211004_162026.jpgIMG_20211004_162128.jpg


    Chi (ZENDESK AMES Australasia)
    5 Oct 2021, 9:22 am AEDT
    Hello Bob,

    Thank you for your response. Please see below the information on sharpening the saw blade that is provided by our product team:

    Preparing for Saw Blade Sharpening
    Ensure saw blade is removed from the pole of hand grip before sharpening.
    Secure your saw blade before you can begin. Afterward, keep these in mind before starting:
    • Keep a saw in place throughout the whole process with the use of a vice.
    • Clamp down or secure the saw blade on the table vice or a box surface.
    • Tightly secure the pole saw with the serrated edge FACING UP.
    • Once the blade is tightly set, clean and dust off wood chips or dirt using a brush wire.
    • Dab a bit of orange oil / non-stick lubricant to help clean the blade and in between the saw teeth.
    • When the blade is free of any tree debris, you can now begin the sharpening process.

    Sharpening
    If you look closely, the blade has sharp edges both in front and in back. When sharpening, START with the side from the end CLOSEST to you and work your way up to the other end.
    • Take a piece of metal file and position it at a 45-degree angle. Do not sharpen the blade with the rod perpendicular to the blade.
    • Hold the blade with one hand or the other tip of the rod. Check which method is more convenient.
    • Run the file against the back edge of the tooth. When sharpening, avoid pushing the file back and forth. Move it in one direction only as this sharpens blades more effectively.
    • Remember to follow and go with the tooth shape. You also need a little force to create friction.
    • Repeat the process with each tooth until you reach the farthest end of the blade.
    • Once you’re done with the back edge of the teeth, you can either flip the blade to the other direction or just shift your position to the opposite end.
    • Repeat the filing again with the front edge of the teeth.

    Picking Your File
    • The size of your file should fit well in between each tooth.
    • You need to file the whole length of the teeth, so it should fit until the point where the teeth are attached to the blade.
    • Using a diamond file for this saw blade is highly recommended

    Should you need any further information or additional help regarding the above, please do not hesitate to contact me.

    Kind regards and all the best,

    Chi
    AMES Australasia Customer Team

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    Bob,
    Once your done yours, Paul an myself and Pagie would like how’s done.

    Thanks Matt.[emoji6]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simplicity View Post
    Bob,
    Once your done yours, Paul an myself and Pagie would like how’s done.

    Thanks Matt.[emoji6]
    That's not how I understood it. I thought that I was the one asking for assistance and advice and that you three honourable gentlemen where the ones who were going to do the educating and demonstrating.

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    Sunday is nearly here again the end of the Week.

    That means Sunday Night Jabber is yet once again.(Tomorrow night).

    All welcome, if your a member on this fine forum your welcome to join us.
    It is a BYO gathering.

    Tomorrow night’s subject unless there is objections will be a carry on from last Sunday night.
    SAWS all saw types, bring your favourite saw(Yes those types if you must [emoji15]) left cutting saws, right cutting saws, big saws, upside down saws ,beautiful saws all saw types welcome.
    Stubborn want to be saw sharpeners most welcome [emoji6].



    Start Time 7.30 ish
    That means those in Melbourne, Victoria ,Australia Earth ,we start at 7,30 Pm ish time, for those who live elsewhere ,I’m sure you can work out what time to join us because I can’t due to my forum name.

    The Get together is held using Skype,you are able to join in by just joining as a Guest.

    Https://join.skype.com/u73k1kv4B1UL


    See Ya 7.30 ish Matt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simplicity View Post

    Tomorrow night’s subject unless there is objections will be a carry on from last Sunday night.
    SAWS all saw types, bring your favourite saw(Yes those types if you must [emoji15]) left cutting saws, right cutting saws, big saws, upside down saws ,beautiful saws all saw types welcome.
    Stubborn want to be saw sharpeners most welcome [emoji6].
    A couple of images for tonight's discussion
    20211006-_DSC0309-Edit-Edit copy.jpg
    20211006-_DSC0307.jpg

    Questions:
    How to measure the appropriate angles?
    How to determine the size of file required?
    Bob

    PS lucky this is not a photography forum and I can get away with smartphone images

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