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    Well, I guess you can say the puddin' is proved Brad...

    After you've put your luverly new toy through a few duty-cycles, I'd be very interested to hear your thoughts on any strengths & weaknesses you discover. As you've shown, the 60 deg. single-iron set-up is capable of giving excellent results on cranky woods. My own experience has been that there are times when a single-iron 60* infill gave me better results than a well-tuned, finely-set double-iron (45*) setup, & times when it didn't. I have some vague theories about why, but I would rather not prejudice your own evaluations, so let's take up the discussion a year or so from now...
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    I will not be available on the Forum for a while as I will be shopping for a towel to throw into the arena. I am hoping to reduce cost by getting a trade-in on the new tea towel previously bought for a now defunct purpose.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushmiller View Post
    I will not be available on the Forum for a while as I will be shopping for a towel to throw into the arena. I am hoping to reduce cost by getting a trade-in on the new tea towel previously bought for a now defunct purpose.



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    Well apparently you can’t have too many towels or tea towels, so I won’t try and discourage you from getting another one Paul . But there shouldn’t be any throwing of such said linen, while I may rate well on a couple of the judging criteria points, there are other points that I may not rate well on.
    As far as I am concerned, everyone who finishes a plane will be a winner, and in with an equal chance of winning the greatest prize of IanW’s excellent package of fine tools.
    ​Brad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanW View Post
    Well, I guess you can say the puddin' is proved Brad...

    After you've put your luverly new toy through a few duty-cycles, I'd be very interested to hear your thoughts on any strengths & weaknesses you discover. As you've shown, the 60 deg. single-iron set-up is capable of giving excellent results on cranky woods. My own experience has been that there are times when a single-iron 60* infill gave me better results than a well-tuned, finely-set double-iron (45*) setup, & times when it didn't. I have some vague theories about why, but I would rather not prejudice your own evaluations, so let's take up the discussion a year or so from now...
    Cheers,
    Cheers Ian.
    When I started on this journey, I automatically went with a 60* bed angle, because I wanted to get the best finish off the tool as possible, on the most cranky, hard, and difficult to work timbers. But part way into the build, I started to question why I didnít go with 55*, because I have the HNT smoother, which is also single iron 60*. For some reason my infill plane handles that ringed Wattle better than my HNT, so I am glad I kept going on the 60* path.
    I donít yet know why it performs better, maybe the HNT needs to be sharpened better, or maybe because of the 3 thou mouth on mine, itís preventing the tearout better. I am still yet to measure the clearance on the HNT, I should do that today. Or maybe itís the extra weight of mine, and the handle might be giving extra downward force. I just donít know yet.
    I know I am not getting the best performance out of my Turner #4, I havenít spent the time to fettle it probably, or learn to set the cap iron properly for best performance. But I canít see it doing any better than what I got out of the infill plane, even in the right hands.
    I sort of wish I had of used a different blade than the D2 one I had, one thatís easier to sharpen. But I wanted to use what I had on hand, as much as possible, and a few D2 irons were in the drawer waiting to be used.
    I think this plane will only be bought out when the other planes canít handle the tearout, so I probably wonít have to sharpen too often anyway.
    ​Brad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironwood View Post

    As far as I am concerned, everyone who finishes a plane will be a winner, and in with an equal chance of winning the greatest prize of IanW’s excellent package of fine tools.
    Brad

    Your plane making skills are only surpassed by your eloquence and I think you have indeed captured the essence of the challenge. I have spent the morning so far on the internet so did not get to the shops. Lucky that. I will now go to the shed and ponder difficult matters.

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    Fantastic work, Brad. Now plane maker extraordinaire as well as a leading photographer of jumping spiders - definitely a talented man. Only thing missing from the photo lineup was a picture of your bottom - or maybe it was censored?

    Cheers, Gary

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary H View Post
    Fantastic work, Brad. Now plane maker extraordinaire as well as a leading photographer of jumping spiders - definitely a talented man. Only thing missing from the photo lineup was a picture of your bottom - or maybe it was censored?

    Cheers, Gary
    HI Gary, good to hear from you mate.
    I have possibly got a few bottom photos that wouldn’t get through .
    There was a few pics of the bottom of the sole after peening and cleaning up, but I don’t have any since the plane is at the finished end of the build.
    I am going to take a few comparison pics, with other planes, to give people a better idea of size, I will also lay the plane over and get a pic of it’s bottom while I am at it.
    Pix to come later this arvo
    ​Brad.

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    Here is the requested bottom shot
    I set the blade flush with the sole, you can see the fine mouth.

    I also measured the HNT, it was 15 thou, compared my 3 thou on this plane.
    Maybe it could still be opened up a little. But I will leave it be for now.
    DSC_1859.jpg
    ​Brad.

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    Here are the comparison shots I promised.
    My infill, HNT Smoother, and Turner #4 , which I believe is pretty much identical in size to a Stanley #4.
    The handle and blade look a bit crooked in the photos, combination of the lens distortion of the widish angle lens, and the blade being pulled up so its not touching the floor and its not sitting straight.
    I did think about retaking the photos, but decided not to bother
    DSC_1854.jpg

    DSC_1855.jpg

    DSC_1856.jpg

    DSC_1858.jpg
    ​Brad.

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    Hi Brad
    Congratulations, thatís a very fine looking and functioning plane.
    Very well done!

    We can all stop now, surely the contest is over. Iím with Paul. Iím gonna get a towel...........but, then Iím gonna roll it up, put it on my noggin and use it as a thinking cap.

    Very best regards

    Pete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pittwater Pete View Post
    Hi Brad
    Congratulations, that’s a very fine looking and functioning plane.
    Very well done!

    We can all stop now, surely the contest is over. I’m with Paul. I’m gonna get a towel...........but, then I’m gonna roll it up, put it on my noggin and use it as a thinking cap.

    Very best regards

    Pete.
    I'll add my Congrats

    but

    It's never over................ how can it be over when dust collection is on the table now.

    Cheers
    Phil

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    That is indeed a fine looking result and worthy of a place on the podium (to the right and slightly below mine...).
    Nothing succeeds like a budgie without a beak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Tiff View Post
    That is indeed a fine looking result and worthy of a place on the podium (to the right and slightly below mine...).
    I am just happy to have finished, with a plane that works
    ​Brad.

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